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FlyTampa Montreal - RC4 approach problem [SOLVED]

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I had the same issue in the airport and I was puzzled since RC never mis-vectors 🙂

However I did not bother to check since I rarely fly into CYUL.

Using FT version as well
 

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17 minutes ago, Shomron said:

I had the same issue in the airport and I was puzzled since RC never mis-vectors 🙂

However I did not bother to check since I rarely fly into CYUL.

Using FT version as well
 

Excellent! 👍 Thanks for confirming you’ve had the same problem. I’m going to edit the AFCAD tomorrow trying the recommendations above and will report my findings.

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Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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I turned off "Enable Back Course" and recompiled the AFCAD. Updated RC files and tried the flight again using weather from two days ago to ensure I had a southerly approach.

Still the same problem of being vectored way too late onto a heading that would never intercept the localiser.

I checked the mag dec and it's -15. This site shows it as -14 so that side is okay.

Going to search FT forums for a new AFCAD. Can't see how to change primary / secondary runways which I suspect is now the problem. Looking at many other AFCADs the lower runway number is always the primary. Not so with Montreal.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

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Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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Problem solved. It was magnetic variation that was incorrectly set as -15 in the FT AFCAD when it should have been 15.

Hence why RC thought the airport was in a different place to where it actually was. My thanks to @rmeier I found the discussion on the FT forum from 2013 with a fixed AFCAD. I'm always late to the party.

A short flight from Ottowa confirmed the problem is now fixed. 👍

Just one final comment. I bought this airport last November so it’s disappointing that FT never corrected the magnetic deviation value in the 7 years since it was first reported.

Edited by Ray Proudfoot
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Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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Wow, that's odd.  Do you have V2 of Montreal (released in 2018) installed via the FlyTampa Universal Installer? 

I just looked again at the original ADE that installed with CYUL V2 and the magvars are set to "15" on all the ILS approaches to all three runways.  The ADE I have is ADEP4_CYUL_GL_2018.BGL dated 4/18/20.

I'm wondering if maybe you have an aftermarket ADE file, like say a GSX or dynamic lighting mod that used the original V1 ADE file as its base.

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15 minutes ago, Bob Scott said:

Wow, that's odd.  Do you have V2 of Montreal (released in 2018) installed via the FlyTampa Universal Installer?

I do remember seeing GSX in the AFCAD name so that would explain things. A Spanish gentleman (Cartayna) provided lots of files for enhanced jetways for GSX owners. I suspect I have used his.

Oh well, all's well that ends well. I imagine I may not be alone although many people have moved on to MSFS.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

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Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

16 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

I do remember seeing GSX in the AFCAD name so that would explain things. A Spanish gentleman (Cartayna) provided lots of files for enhanced jetways for GSX owners. I suspect I have used his.

Oh well, all's well that ends well. I imagine I may not be alone although many people have moved on to MSFS.

I'm still with you but plan to transition next month 😉

Shom

 

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30 minutes ago, Shomron said:

I'm still with you but plan to transition next month 😉

Good luck! I’ve no plans to move away from v5.3 which I consider the best yet. And with Concorde coming in a few months that will make me a very happy chappy. 😁

Ray (Cheshire, England).

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