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...and yet you have repeatedly, in this very thread, disputed with anyone suggesting the 737 was a port from P3D. SMH.

I've been sitting on the fence regarding this thread...up until now. PMDG offers a good product for the flight sim community. Full stop. I would like to comment on the post title, specifically the word "anger". Having been on/off this forum for well over twenty years, some posters (not just commercial) develop a strong community resentment against themselves. When that happens, the "pack mentality" just piles on. Yes there are definitely some here "angered" by PMDG and I sense that some folks also are on the verge of borderline "hate"...just as can be observed with another Airbus developer. I've been buying PMDG products since the FS2004 days...the MD-11 was ground-breaking. A lot of customers felt "betrayed" when that product became vaporware. I'm trying to stay objective when I read posts like "the 737 for MSFS was free for existing customers who bought the latest P3D offering". That is a true statement. Also true; the MSFS 737 was a ported product, not a new build...and those who remember will still recall all the "excuses" during the lengthy port of that product to MSFS...recall "Asobo this, Asobo that...". There was a lot of negative feedback from the community, especially when Fenix "hit the ball out of the park" with their first release...without the drama. The 777 for MSFS is a new build specifically for that platform...I would expect a higher (initial) price to cover the company's development costs. What we're seeing now, is a different pricing strategy then we had in the past. That is their (PMDG's) choice...we as consumers can either purchase or not. Market dynamics will be the decider if PMDG made the right move. I'm also surprised that PMDG has not taken advantage of integration with GSX. Again, their business. Personally, I don't visit their forum anymore...I just don't find it useful. My choice/opinion. I'm surprised that PMDG has elected to try to bring the "baby" 747 (-100) to market before the established -400 and -8 series...again...it's their call. Now for the controversial bit: RSR has always been the (vocal) face of PMDG...the two sets of letters are synonymous in the world of flight sim. Mr Randazzo has also been at the forefront of "hype" for his products, more so than any other developer (that I can recall at least). Recall the bluster of their vaporware Global Flight Operations program? Human nature says we shouldn't speak ill of people we've never met...no, I have never met the man. Regardless...he is "known" to all. Personally, I believe the long record of "hype" (and instances of documented under-delivering) is what gets the PMDG name into trouble (IMHO). I was also surprised by the hiring of the ex-Aerosoft guy...from my view, why would a company that solicits such a strong public relations reaction (polarity) from the community do that? Again...it's their business. To summarize...I like the PMDG product...it delivers what is expected...for MSFS, I have purchased the 737-600, 737-700 and the 777-300ER and freighter. I am choosing the products that I like to fly. That's how the market works. My past "gripes" with some of the noise/hype surrounding PMDG's planned updates, etc, is now water under the bridge. Maybe getting older has also changed my purchasing patterns...PMDG is no longer a "day one" buy...personally, I look at the reviews (for all my purchases) now, resisting the impulse buys of the past! 🙂

I'm guessing the repainter of your livery forgot to edit the ATC Airline code in the cfg file. Look for that line (ATC airline code) and change the code from UAL to CMP.

This is what CaptainSim used to do...just sayin'...(I hope I'm wrong...)

Not necessarily aircraft development (but rather liveries), for those who don't remember the "Papa Tango" affair; re: Ariane or specifically Peter Tishma.

Wow...pleasant to see so many simmers that still recall the Dreamfleet 727 and the Level-D (PIC) 767. Yup, I've been around long enough to fly the (you know what) out of both of those aircraft "back in the day". Many fond memories of both of those aircraft. I do smile at the comments here of the Level D 767...yes, it was undeniably the best available (with the caveat) at the time. With the port to P3D (32 bit), the graphics were getting very dated...today, it wouldn't stand a chance. I do recall their FMS was very comprehensive. I hope that everyone's enthusiasm for a quality 767 translates into a ballpark success for Bluebird.

I think you should probably view this "problem" from the side of the (potential) developers; think of the thousands of hours a developer has to invest into making a "study level" airliner and then divide those hours into potential sales. It becomes a high risk venture. (We can all speculate on the volume of aircraft FSLabs has sold in MSFS being the latecomer to the party.) A good example is Bluebird Simulations...they have been developing their product (B757 and hopefully a subsequent B767) for literally years. It wouldn't make sense now for PMDG to try to compete with BBS for market share of that particular airframe. I do agree that MSFS has opened a much larger market (primarily through XBox) than P3D ever saw...it is; however, still a limited market.

Great set of photos!

I haven't seen a post yet about this upcoming biz jet...was really hoping that Carenado would get around to the Citation SII for MSFS...yeah, I like the old steam gauges. This one actually looks promising... https://msfsaddons.com/2025/04/06/livtoair-announces-citation-cj3-release-date-and-pricing-for-microsoft-flight-simulator/

Your post reminded me of when I was living in Scotland...I routinely flew the NWA DC-10-40 between Amsterdam and Memphis...in the mid-2000's, NWA then retired the trijet and replaced that route with the A330. Flew several other NWA aircraft out of Detroit, Cincinnati and Memphis (as well as Seattle); the B727, the DC-9 and the A320, as well as their regionals (Airlink); the Saab 340, CRJ200 and the BAe 146. I particularly enjoyed their last livery...the one you have captured in these photos. Although, I also liked the red Saab 340 as well! 🙂

Great shots of the NWA 330! Fond memories!

In fairness...CS always had really, really good visual models. I have to believe, that over time, they (CS) simple lost their talent to continue to develop decent flight models, and by the time MSFS2020 came about, they're not even developing systems depth anymore (copying Asobo base flight models and systems). That being said, one of my favourite aircraft in MSFS2020 is the Denarq modded D18S. (Great visuals from CS + an aftermarket flight model...similar to many CS/third party mods in P3D.) Would've been nice to see the B200 and Citation 550 ported over to MSFS with some third party TLC.

Like flying a B747 with two engines...

Great set of photos Bernd! (My parents were raised very close to the Elbe, just NE of Hamburg.)

Thank you Bernd! This is just such a fun aircraft to fly, and to take in the scenery!