Hello simmers,

I've been struggling with setting up views with my Honeycomb Alpha yoke in msfs2020. I suppose what i want is rather easy to accomplish but i just can't get i right somehow.

 

All i want to achieve is the following 3 things:

1. Switch from the cockpit view to the outside view with a designated button, and back from outside view to cockpit view with the same button.

2. Freely pan around the cockpit with the hat switch on the Alpha yoke (=Freelook?)

3. Freely pan around the outside with the hat switch on the Alpha yoke. (=Freelook?)

I hope someone can help me out with this in some simple but exact steps.

Edited July 23, 20223 yr by Wildblue
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Controls options, make sure the yoke is selected. Make sure the filter is set to all or you will not see unassigned options.

1) Map "cockpit/external view mode" to the button of your choice 

2) map cockpit look (up / down / left / right) to the hat

3) map external view look (up / down / left / right) to the hat. You will get a warning with each mapping that the button is already assigned because you assigned it to cockpit look, but since the two commands never cross paths, you can dual-map it.

 

 

45 minutes ago, Wildblue said:

Hello simmers,

I've been struggling with setting up views with my Honeycomb Alpha yoke in msfs2020. I suppose what i want is rather easy to accomplish but i just can't get i right somehow.

 

All i want to achieve is the following 3 things:

1. Switch from the cockpit view to the outside view with a designated button, and back from outside view to cockpit view with the same button.

2. Freely pan around the cockpit with the hat switch on the Alpha yoke (=Freelook?)

3. Freely pan around the outside with the hat switch on the Alpha yoke. (=Freelook?)

I hope someone can help me out with this in some simple but exact steps.

Via USB, connect an XBox controller to your PC, available cheaply at any electronics store. All three view-options you enumerated are preprogrammed and enabled by default. Just plug it in. You won't even need to map any of the buttons. For this exact reason, I've long used an XBox controller as my primary input device on MSFS and previously on P3D.

Edited July 23, 20223 yr by David Mills

To follow up on my previous post: Remember that MSFS was built from the ground up to work, not only on PC, but also on XBox. So MSFS support for the XBox controller is top priority for Asobo. I've personally found that the XBox controller, even on a PC, is the best and easiest flight controller. Even apart from the easy-to-use viewing options the OP wanted, the XBox controller provides smooth and natural-feeling control of all aircraft aerosurfaces.

 

5 hours ago, eslader said:

Controls options, make sure the yoke is selected. Make sure the filter is set to all or you will not see unassigned options.

1) Map "cockpit/external view mode" to the button of your choice 

2) map cockpit look (up / down / left / right) to the hat

3) map external view look (up / down / left / right) to the hat. You will get a warning with each mapping that the button is already assigned because you assigned it to cockpit look, but since the two commands never cross paths, you can dual-map it.

 

 

Thanks for your answer.

However, mapping up / down / left / right to the hat, doesn't sound to me as freely panning around,

But i'll try your suggestion and see if what you described is not just 4 way-viewing in stead of panning around freely.

 

 

6 hours ago, David Mills said:

Via USB, connect an XBox controller to your PC, available cheaply at any electronics store. All three view-options you enumerated are preprogrammed and enabled by default. Just plug it in. You won't even need to map any of the buttons. For this exact reason, I've long used an XBox controller as my primary input device on MSFS and previously on P3D.

Thanks for your answer.

I hear what you say.

But i like to fly "hands-on yoke and throttle", if that's even a term. I mean i don't want to have to switch devices for different things. I have the Alpha yoke and Bravo throttle in front of me and the track-ir on my head and like to control everything from that. For me that's the most handy and comfortable way to fly, especially for long hours in a rather small room. You might ask why i need to pan freely with the hat-switch if i have a track-ir. Well, i've always used hat-switches in combination with track-ir, you can go quickly to a specific view with the hat-switch and then look around from that new view with the track-ir. And especially in outside view you will still need the hat-switch to go from say the front of an aircraft to the back or another specific spot on the aircraft, you can't do that with your neck and track-ir alone. A bit difficult to explain maybe, but this way has always suited my needs exactly in fs9 and fsx, and also relaxes my neck a little😀. So all i really need now is to program the hat-switch to freely pan around inside and outside the cockpit.

I hope someone can still answer to this.

Edited July 23, 20223 yr by Wildblue

Here you go mate for the hat switch ---

and Esader no 1 correct - I use button 4 for this

 

 

13 hours ago, Wildblue said:

However, mapping up / down / left / right to the hat, doesn't sound to me as freely panning around,

There's also up/left up/right down/left down/right that can be mapped, although it can be a pain to get them properly mapped because MS's controls setup is stupid. If when scanning for input you do not very precisely hit that corner button, and say hit the down button first before hitting the down/right button, it will get mapped as "down + down/right." 

That said, you later elaborated and said you use TrackIR, so you pretty much have my setup. I do not use the hat switch for views because I have a head tracker. If for some reason I need more direct view control I click the middle button on the mouse and look around with that.

I know you said you want to only use buttons on the controls, but while you can get close in general it's not possible to solely use a HOTAS to control the plane. There will always be something you have to control with the mouse, like the Garmin buttons. As long as I have to reach for the mouse on the regular anyway, I might as well use it as my auxiliary view control.

 

9 hours ago, jaytee73 said:

Here you go mate for the hat switch ---

and Esader no 1 correct - I use button 4 for this

 

 

Wow! Thanks, i'll try it out.