I plan to build a new system for flight sims (and games). First my current system is

4770K @4.5 GHz 16 Gb RAM 2200 MHz 2070 Super
all these components I intend to upgrade
I use VR in flight sims and have a HP Reverb G2. I use MSFS DCS P3D5 XP11 (maybe XP12 later)

I have narrowed down to these three CPUs and find it hard to choose which one. As I see it the main pro and con for each of them is

5800X3D with
PRO
The reports of good performance in MSFS because of big L3 cache
Least expensive system
CON
Old platform no upgrade possibility
Lowest CPU frequencies

7600X
PRO
Highest CPU frequencies
DDR5 memory
Seem to have best upgrade options
CON
Most expensive system
Only six cores

13600KF
PRO
Highest number of cores
CON
Upgrade options ?

What do you think. Should any PRO or CON be added or removed ?

 

Id go 7600x if I had to buy one today....simply because an x3d version for 7000 ryzen is coming. If you are currently using a ryzen setup, the 5800x3d is like 340 bucks right now at several retailers. WOuld be a good stop gap but I wouldn't build a new system around it today.

I'm looking a building a new system myself coming from a similar system to yours (4770K and 1070TI). I've been considering the same 3 CPUs. I was leaning towards the 5800x3d at first due to the numerous claims of superior performance in MSFS, but the benchmarks at https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2022-intel-core-i9-13900k-core-i5-13600k-review?page=2 have me leaning toward the new I5 13600k which is outperforming both of the AMD offerings in MSFS. It is also a better CPU for non gaming tasks and you can still use less expensive DDR4 memory. Of course CaptainNicks advice to go with the 7600x is also worthy of consideration due to a potentially better upgrade path, but at this time the 13600K will outperform it.

On 10/30/2022 at 7:12 AM, turnandbank said:

I'm looking a building a new system myself coming from a similar system to yours (4770K and 1070TI). I've been considering the same 3 CPUs. I was leaning towards the 5800x3d at first due to the numerous claims of superior performance in MSFS, but the benchmarks at https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2022-intel-core-i9-13900k-core-i5-13600k-review?page=2 have me leaning toward the new I5 13600k which is outperforming both of the AMD offerings in MSFS. It is also a better CPU for non gaming tasks and you can still use less expensive DDR4 memory. Of course CaptainNicks advice to go with the 7600x is also worthy of consideration due to a potentially better upgrade path, but at this time the 13600K will outperform it.

My conclusion is rather the opposite. I was leaning towards 13600KF but now towards 5800X3D. I don't see the benchmark you link to showing 13600 being faster than 5800X3D. And on Toms hardware I read that the 13600 needs to be overclocked to be as fast as the 5800X3D (gaming).
I am aware of the intel being better for non gaming tasks like productivity. But what is that if not tasks that don't require a fast CPU ? I have no performance problem with my current system for non gaming tasks.

On 10/30/2022 at 4:06 AM, CaptainNick said:

Id go 7600x if I had to buy one today....simply because an x3d version for 7000 ryzen is coming.

I think we can safely assume that such a 3D CPU is going to be very expensive. And even the 7600X system is now the most expensive system

20 hours ago, jfri said:

I think we can safely assume that such a 3D CPU is going to be very expensive. And even the 7600X system is now the most expensive system

Price wasn't listed as a concern nor a budget. What is expensive is relative...the 13 series intel will probably (historically) be the the last to work on the z6/z7 series mobo's. Making it un-upgradeable in the future without a new mobo purchase as well as a cpu. Everything has it's pro's and cons 😄

21 hours ago, jfri said:

I think we can safely assume that such a 3D CPU is going to be very expensive. And even the 7600X system is now the most expensive system

See https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ryzen-7000-3d-v-cache-cpus-may-offer-even-more-bandwidth-than-first-gen-counterparts for some initial information about this.

19 minutes ago, pgde said:

See https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ryzen-7000-3d-v-cache-cpus-may-offer-even-more-bandwidth-than-first-gen-counterparts for some initial information about this.

Of course a 7000 3d cache will be more powerful than 5800x3d I have never doubt that. And the cost is not discussed in the link neither when it comes out.

From other sources, Q1, 2023.