1 hour ago, snglecoil said:

Interesting. I did multi training in a Baron but have flown only about 20 hrs in them since. Did you find them to be particularly challenging in crosswinds? It’s a solid plane that didn’t seem to take much more than standard crosswind technique to behave predictably. 

I’ll have to give your tweaks a try. The Baron and the Bonanza are, in my opinion, the 2 best flying GA planes around. 

Yes, I do agree (as much as I can remember) it is a solid airframe. Actually, at that time, it was winter, and I was pleasantly surprised to see that behaved very nicely in light icing conditions and moderate crosswinds. Unfortunately, the ASOBO'S model is very far from the real one, very unstable.

The main contributing factor is how they implemented those temperatures, pressure, wind, and up/down drafts to an instant abrupt change which in reality is not like that.

On 12/28/2022 at 3:51 PM, LouP said:

Make sure that you have your rudder pedals linked to the axis for nose wheel steering.  I had the same issue but once I mapped the nose wheel steering, all was well.

LouP

Thanks for this suggestion. I linked the nose wheel to my rudder pedals. That seemed to help. I'm also pushing down on the yoke a little too.

On 12/29/2022 at 3:27 PM, LRBS said:

 

The main contributing factor is how they implemented those temperatures, pressure, wind, and up/down drafts to an instant abrupt change which in reality is not like that.

Just avoid flying in the middle of the day.  Fly at dawn or dusk. 

Alternatively you can choose a location where the real time is dawn, select live weather then manually change the time to midday. That gives you the live weather for the real time (dawn) but full daylight lighting.

Edited December 31, 20223 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

1 hour ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

Just avoid flying in the middle of the day.  Fly at dawn or dusk. 

 

Are you serious? Is this the fix or should they address the issue?

4 hours ago, LRBS said:

Are you serious? Is this the fix or should they address the issue?

Of course it is not a fix.

It is just a way to avoid the issue by flying at a time of day where the turbulence is much milder.

2 hours ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said:

Of course it is not a fix.

It is just a way to avoid the issue by flying at a time of day where the turbulence is much milder.

I'm sorry that I came like that. My apologies. 

I'm just frustrated that people either don't see it or don't care for realism. 

9 hours ago, LRBS said:

I'm sorry that I came like that. My apologies. 

I'm just frustrated that people either don't see it or don't care for realism. 

Overall there are several turbulence issues in the game.

1. In many cases it is just missing or too tame
2. Ironically, it is also often present where it should not be
3. When it is present it acts in an odd unrealistic way

Another question as it relates to the MSFS Baron 58, do prop sync and yaw damper actually work on the plane? I know the prop sync switch doesn't work, but can you still toggle prop sync on/off? Same with yaw damper. I don't see anywhere to activate yaw damper, but can I toggle it with a controller?

 

6) Apply the upwind wheel brake first to begin slowing down after landing.

Presumably this should say the downwind brake?

Okay, I'm turning this into a general questions about the Baron 58 thread, but I've noticed that the engine heat isn't very responsive to changes in cowl flaps, etc. Does anyone know if engine heat is dynamic and modelled properly? I know it responds to mixture settings, but not much else impacts it beyond that.

We can adjust cowl flaps, but they don't seem to have much effect on the engine performance.

24 minutes ago, N9718 said:

Okay, I'm turning this into a general questions about the Baron 58 thread, but I've noticed that the engine heat isn't very responsive to changes in cowl flaps, etc. Does anyone know if engine heat is dynamic and modelled properly? I know it responds to mixture settings, but not much else impacts it beyond that.

We can adjust cowl flaps, but they don't seem to have much effect on the engine performance.

I believe this is the kind of detail that has to be custom implemented. I don't think that the default prop model allows for a highly detailled thermodynamic model 😕

But this is typical of general purpose sims ...

Edited January 4, 20233 yr by cagarini

Thanks for the response. If I remember correctly, when I flew the Baron 58 in XPlane 11, cowl flaps and other flight configurations were properly modelled and affected engine performance. Maybe I'm misremembering though.

Okay. Even the performance mod I'm using doesn't seem to model engine heat properly outside of fuel mixture.

Just now, N9718 said:

Thanks for the response. If I remember correctly, when I flew the Baron 58 in XPlane 11, cowl flaps and other flight configurations were properly modelled and affected engine performance. Maybe I'm misremembering though.

Okay. Even the performance mod I'm using doesn't seem to model engine heat properly outside of fuel mixture.

XP11 and 12 for sure as as good (default) as MFS when it comes to this kind of subtleties... Customized systems implementation is required there as well...

3 minutes ago, cagarini said:

XP11 and 12 for sure as as good (default) as MFS when it comes to this kind of subtleties... Customized systems implementation is required there as well...

I guess I should have mentioned that I used the Reality Expansion Pack for the Baron in XP11 (https://store.x-plane.org/Reality-Expansion-Pack-for-default-B58-Baron_p_790.html).

I was hoping that the Asobo Baron G58 Realism Mod (https://flightsim.to/file/41019/asobo-baron-g58-realism-mod) would do the same thing in MSFS.

24 minutes ago, N9718 said:

I guess I should have mentioned that I used the Reality Expansion Pack for the Baron in XP11 (https://store.x-plane.org/Reality-Expansion-Pack-for-default-B58-Baron_p_790.html).

I was hoping that the Asobo Baron G58 Realism Mod (https://flightsim.to/file/41019/asobo-baron-g58-realism-mod) would do the same thing in MSFS.

Is if freeware?