When purchasing a yoke are pedals reqd?

[Lord Farringdon 495]

Hi Guys,

 

I currently have a Saitek X52 Hotas but I 'm thinking of shelling out on a Thrustmaster Boeing yoke and a Honeycomb Bravo throttle quadrant. It's going to be stretch such that the pedals will have to wait for another day.  But in the meantime I assume I can just use keyboard commands for rudder? Have I got that right or is there a slicker way to do this? 

 

Cheers

Terry

 

 

[guenseli 1,591]

4 minutes ago, Lord Farringdon said:

Have I got that right or is there a slicker way to do this? 

No, in my opinion, rudders are a must have.
I would keep the joystick instead of the yoke and get rudder pedals!

btw.: with a yoke you are more flexible as you can control both aircraft with yokes and sticks.
I always find a bit off to control a stick plane with a yoke.

And do not forget helicopters!

but that is just my opinion.

[Jazz 1,046]

47 minutes ago, Lord Farringdon said:

Hi Guys,

 

I currently have a Saitek X52 Hotas but I 'm thinking of shelling out on a Thrustmaster Boeing yoke and a Honeycomb Bravo throttle quadrant. It's going to be stretch such that the pedals will have to wait for another day.  But in the meantime I assume I can just use keyboard commands for rudder? Have I got that right or is there a slicker way to do this? 

 

Cheers

Terry

 

 

No, that really will not work at all. You can't control the rudder like that. You are far better off keeping the joystick and buying some pedals and the Bravo throttles and buying the yoke last.

[G550flyer 1,014]

As others have pointed out, you want those pedals. Or, should I say, you want it all! From a pilots perspective, you definitely want the pedals for realistic/natural braking and rudder control. I have never flown scare buses, but in sim, I use a stick. To give you an idea of options, this is my setup.

I have the warthog thrustmaster HOTAS, CH pedals and the thrustmaster yoke and throttles. I also use FSUIPC 7 so that I can seamlessly assign devices to specific aircraft. I'll admit, it's a little crowded at the desk, but works perfect. I will insert a pic. Through FSUIPC, I have the warthog assigned to Airbuses. I have the Boeing yoke and throttles assigned to all yoke aircraft. The pedals are assigned to all aircraft. I also have the throttle friction lever axis on the warthog assigned as a tiller for my biz jets and airliners.

With this setup, I go from yoke to stick aircraft seamlessly. Select this aircraft, use these controls, select that aircraft, use those controls. This also allows me to go into DCS world without unplugging and moving around devices. I just load any sim and fly. I posted my messy crowded desk below, but it reminds me of being in the tight flight decks that I fly in. Don't mind the train controls on the desk. Now that you have an idea of how others setup their sims, you can figure out what's best for you.

 

[Dominique_K 10,149]

I’d say every scenario where there is a strong torque to be expected, pedals are a really useful addition, for instance Ww2 warbirds, helicopters etc.. If you fly only airliners much less so. 

[ark 1,290]

I agree with the above, if you have to choose, then buy pedals (with brakes) before buying a yoke.

Al

[Lord Farringdon 495]

Thanks guys and Happy New Year.  I truly appreciate the sage advice. So I will put a yoke on hold and hunt for some pedals based on your replies which make absolute sense, while being a little easier on the pocket!!  As a couple of you pointed out different aircraft types, helicopters for example and any situations which require a degree of rudder authority for example asymmetric thrust will require them.

On top of all that, thanks for the insight into your setup  @G550flyer. That seems like a good way to use both the stick and the yoke with a single set of pedals. When I finally get all the pieces together I imagine I will have a very similar setup, including FSUIPC to weld it all together. So my thing now is to look at some pedals.  Rick,  I notice you said you had CH pedals. Good/better/best?  What pedals do any of you reckon will eventually fit well with the Saitek X52 Hotas, Thrustmaster Boeing yoke and Honeycomb Bravo throttle quadrant?  Anything I should steer away from?(excuse the clumsy pun). 

 

Thanks for the replies guys. 

 

Cheers

 

Terry  

Edited January 1, 2023 by Lord Farringdon

[G550flyer 1,014]

On 1/1/2023 at 1:31 AM, Lord Farringdon said:

Rick,  I notice you said you had CH pedals. Good/better/best?

They have worked well for me, but I have had one little issue. It appears that they can be some what sticky and apply brakes when my feet are simply resting on them. To avoid this, I place something underneath the pedals during the CH software calibration. This has them slightly applied during calibration. Once done, I can rest my feet on the pedals and have to apply just a tad before the brakes apply. It also works great during crosswind landings. Even in the real world, you have some unintentional application during crosswind landing. You will notice that the brakes on one side of the jet is hotter than the brakes on the other side. 

Rick

[Lord Farringdon 495]

Might take a closer look at the CH pedals then. Seems you found a fairly simple way to get around the issue you described so no showstopper there.

Took a look at your tumblr link too. Very impressive airplane you fly there IRL Rick and I like the airplane general info and simple explanations you give. Though, I'm guessing you are not using CH pedals in that 🤣.

Thanks Rick

 

Cheers

Terry 

[G550flyer 1,014]

5 hours ago, Lord Farringdon said:

Though, I'm guessing you are not using CH pedals in that 🤣.

🤣

[01pewterz28 117]

I would get the yoke and search for a cheap CH rudder pedal. I sold my CH pedals in excellent condition for $50 as I did not need them anymore. Buy flying without a set of rudder pedals I could not imagine doing that ever again.