March 4, 20233 yr Hi there… till today, I run the following system with MSFS 2020: Prozessor (CPU): i9 9900 KS; 5,00 Ghz (edited) Arbeitsspeicher (RAM): 32 GB DDR4 3600 MHZ CL16 Mainboard: Z390 Aorus Xtreme Netzteil: BeQuiet Dark Power 1200W Gehäuse: Thormax Grafikkarte: RTX 4090 HDD / SSD: 1x 500 GB M.2 SSD; 1x 1 TB M.2 SSD 3 Beamer Optoma HD29HST Windows 10 Since last week, I run MSFS with my homecockpit over a 180 degree curved screen with Immersive Display. My FPS dropped to 15 FPS … So I plan to sell my system and go for an Intel i9 13900K, 32 GB DDR5 7200 MHZ, Z790 Mainboard. I know, that this question is nonsense, but do you think I can get satisfying FPS with this updated system compared to my actual system? And another question…. if I go for a 13900K, which mainboard can you recommend? I think about Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Master or ASUS Z790 Hero Maximus. The aorus master is quite cheaper than the Hero Maxiumus. Or is there a thing I have to observe? Thank you really a lot for your help! Christian Edited March 4, 20233 yr by jim05
March 4, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, jim05 said: Prozessor (CPU): i9 9900 KS; 4,00 Ghz Arbeitsspeicher (RAM): 32 GB DDR4 Mainboard: Z390 Aorus Xtreme Netzteil: BeQuiet Dark Power 1200W Gehäuse: Thormax Grafikkarte: RTX 4090 HDD / SSD: 1x 500 GB M.2 SSD; 1x 1 TB M.2 SSD 3 Beamer Optoma HD29HST Windows 10 Before upgrading, there is one obvious anomaly with your current setup. You show a 9900KS at 4 Ghz which is way below what it is capable of. Given reasonable cooling, the 9900 KS should run comfortably overclocked at 5 Ghz and probably 5.2, which would give a significant increase in performance. Although it's an older processor, it was one of the very best for consistent stable overclocking. Then with your 4090 and minor adjustments to MSFS settings you should be able to get adequate fps and save a lot of money. John B
March 4, 20233 yr Consider an ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E WiFi. It's highly recommended. I got one and I'm very happy with it. [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
March 4, 20233 yr A bunch of the new Z790 mainboards incorporate the bugged Intel i-226V LAN adapter, which has a problem where it intermittently drops the connection every 3-5 minutes. I'd look for a board that uses a different LAN device, or at least includes a second Realtek or other LAN device. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
March 4, 20233 yr Rumor has it that the Realtek is as bad or worse. Experiences vary greatly depending on speed and what's on the other end. I'm hooked up to a D-Link switch and typically only have the connection toggle during system boot. https://community.intel.com/t5/Ethernet-Products/Intel-Communication-Intel-Ethernet-Controller-I226-Series-Random/m-p/1453177#M32084 [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
March 5, 20233 yr 23 hours ago, Bob Scott said: A bunch of the new Z790 mainboards incorporate the bugged Intel i-226V LAN adapter, which has a problem where it intermittently drops the connection every 3-5 minutes. I'd look for a board that uses a different LAN device, or at least includes a second Realtek or other LAN device. If going for a new build, what would you recommend? I am going to go with the 7950x3d or the 7800x3d from AMD. Thank you Edited March 5, 20233 yr by B777ER Eric
March 5, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, B777ER said: If going for a new build, what would you recommend? I am going to go with the 7950x3d or the 7800x3d from AMD. Thank you I have no experience with AMD CPUs/motherboards... 22 hours ago, odourboy said: Rumor has it that the Realtek is as bad or worse. Experiences vary greatly depending on speed and what's on the other end. I'm hooked up to a D-Link switch and typically only have the connection toggle during system boot. https://community.intel.com/t5/Ethernet-Products/Intel-Communication-Intel-Ethernet-Controller-I226-Series-Random/m-p/1453177#M32084 I'm using a Netgear gigabit switch. Forcing 1Gbps or 100Mbps and/or disabling EEE reduced the frequency, but did not stop the dropouts. My workaround was to use an external USB-to-Ethernet adapter that incorporates a 1Gbps Realtek device. No dropouts since. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
March 5, 20233 yr 4 hours ago, Bob Scott said: My workaround was to use an external USB-to-Ethernet adapter that incorporates a 1Gbps Realtek device. No dropouts since. What device are you using? (I might have to get myself one if I find dropouts become an issue!) Edit: never mind. I see there are hundreds of them on Amazon for almost nothing capable of 1G bandwidth. Edited March 5, 20233 yr by odourboy [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
March 6, 20233 yr @Bob Scott I notice you haveWD SN850X in your system. WD released a firmware update a few days ago which addresses a bug they've had for several years. You need the Western Diyital Dashboard to upgrade: https://support-en.wd.com/app/products/product-detailweb/p/8695 [email protected] - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)
March 6, 20233 yr 17 hours ago, odourboy said: What device are you using? (I might have to get myself one if I find dropouts become an issue!) Edit: never mind. I see there are hundreds of them on Amazon for almost nothing capable of 1G bandwidth. The one I have is a USB-C to ethernet adapter I got at Best Buy for $20. 12 hours ago, odourboy said: @Bob Scott I notice you haveWD SN850X in your system. WD released a firmware update a few days ago which addresses a bug they've had for several years. You need the Western Diyital Dashboard to upgrade: https://support-en.wd.com/app/products/product-detailweb/p/8695 Thanks...I'm waiting until I do my next full backup before messing with the SSD firmware. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
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