My P3D Ortho Project

[PavlinS 179]

Anyway, guys, I am downloading again, this time I am trying USA Server for the imagery 

 

Hopefully this time the ground textures look better. I noticed that there is errors again, but they are a lot less. We'll see. Usually this takes two days to complete. 

 

[Daube 355]

I mean, at least when it comes to Google, Bing or Arcgis (which are, I believe, the main three choices in Ortho4*), you can check how the textures will look like directly on their maps website. It's easier than downloading from Ortho4* and waiting to see the result in the sim, no ?

[PavlinS 179]

Daube, the previous textures were Google on zoom level 18. It is obvious no one liked them, so I made a little research via Google and found that for south east Asia the best is the US ones. The rest of them, as you accurately pointed out are not that good, because the level of color mismatch is higher than this. Also I am at the moment trying new shading with Enshade / Envtex, hopefully this give better result. 

 

Also, I repeat, any help with ScenProc so I can add autogen, better highways and vector data will be highly appreciated, because I get 0 autogen objects creation a lot and I need help with this. 

Edited May 4, 2023 by PavlinS

[PavlinS 179]

Thigs are going smoothly. 

 

I am afraid however this one won't have any autogen, because I did not seen any ScenProc doing anything, so I will see after. Ofc I will share images, so you guys can tell opinions on the new polygons. 

 

Does anyone here understands ScenProc? I really need help with it. 

Edited May 5, 2023 by PavlinS

[Christopher Low 5,390]

15 hours ago, sim4life said:

I get that you have some newly found love for Ortho and I appreciate your enthusiasm. But sorry, this looks absolutely terrible. If you enjoy doing this project for yourself then by all means continue. But if you think people are going to share your enthusiasm you're going to get very disappointed.

Many of us had the same kind of enthusiasm when Tile proxy was a thing for FSX some 10-15 years ago. Back in those days photoreal scenery products were also a thing, created by people who just discovered the Ortho thing as you have now. Those sceneries still didn't look as bad as your screenshots but Tile proxy and the photoreal concept pretty much disappeared anyway.

So I think you're at least 10 years too late to the party, because trying to build a realistic scenery based on 2d textures is a dead end. Many people tried and all of them failed. There's a reason why this is not how it's done anymore. Even if you get extremely detailed hires textures using perfect color matching and seasons, it's still 2d textures. You seem to thing that autogen is going to help you. Sorry, it won't. It will just make things even worse. In fact, autogen is something you should avoid. Autogen was invented as a workaround, not a solution. "We don't know how this area looks so we're just going to throw in some generic random buildings and hope it looks ok". No, this is not how you should do it anymore.

Sorry but someone had to break this to you.

This is the way that MSFS does it, so I am not sure what your point is Granted, they have much better looking autogen than P3D, but even just adding trees makes a massive difference to the realism of photoscenery (which is what I used to do with the Horizon UK VFR Photographic Scenery and Earth Simulations TreeScapes).

[PavlinS 179]

1 minute ago, Christopher Low said:

This is the way that MSFS does it, so I am not sure what your point is Granted, they have much better looking autogen than P3D, but even just adding trees makes a massive difference to the realism of photoscenery (which is what I used to do with the Horizon UK VFR Photographic Scenery and Earth Simulations TreeScapes).

Thank you for clarification. Honestly, I was thinking similar. But I was not sure till now. 

[PavlinS 179]

Soon will show images. Unfortunately no autogen will be available in them, but I will attempt to work the ScenProc to create autogen for the scenery. Just the imagery this time. Anyway, hope on reactions again, as last time, even if it's negative one. Thank you in advance. 

 

Here they are, coming:

 

 

 

 

 

I think it was worth the wait. What you guys think? I am sure, that when I add the autogen, hopefully, will look good enough. 

Edited May 5, 2023 by PavlinS

[PavlinS 179]

currently adding sources to the script, so I can use it. 

 

Of course I will add as well the vector data I bought so I can have the whole information. This time I decided to take the latest stable release, because the most latest is not stable, still in development, hope this change the stuff. 

[PavlinS 179]

Anyone that can help with this is so welcome

 

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Edited May 5, 2023 by PavlinS

[PavlinS 179]

Guys, for now I am working manually on it, because this is obviously the only way for me to work on it for now. 

Hope someone help with all that autogen. 

 

This is my SimDirector, because I have Professional Plus license. 

[Daube 355]

The colors on that sequence of screenshots above are much better than the initial group of screenshots, for sure.

But now there might be a little bit too much saturation. It's like, the green fields are almost fluorescent. This is especially visible on that very last screenshot above. What did you do to adjust the colors, compared to the very first time ? You are definitely on the right track, but you need to adjust the settings (for color adjustment) just a little bit more.

And yes, once the autogen will get on these, it will look even better.

[PavlinS 179]

I added HDR in Reshade. I'll remove it for the next test. Still trying with ScenProc, it is difficult, but I will find a way, no matter how much I have to try. 

 

Guys, I managed to EXTRACT BUILDINGS. Now it becomes interesting. Expect new images soon! 

Edited May 5, 2023 by PavlinS

[PavlinS 179]

oke, here some buildings on the landscape:

 

 

 

It is not much, but I finally found a script that works. There will be more, because I have a lot more data and all those polygons will be filled at the end. Next is to find good tree script and then good script for transport highways and other transport vector data. And then, I sincerely hope it will be good enough to be published and work as scenery for you guys to enjoy if you want to. 

Btw, if it is too saturated still, no worries, I can work more on the shading. 

[PavlinS 179]

Hm. Well, obviously most of the autogen I'll have to place on my own. Except, well, to find a way to create more autogen via annotator from the Prepar3D SDK. 

 

I know, it looks the same. Needs work. A lot of work, to look good enough. 

[PavlinS 179]

Actually, I am attempting something, guys - I decided to download OSM data for ScenProc from Ortho4XP_P3D. That way I am covering the same area with autogen, but this time the script will be combination from the scrips for buildings / trees I developed earlier today. This might give a lot better result and a lot more intense autogen. 

 

Takes a lot more time now to process the tile, which gives me hope. That way I will have a lot less manual work. Now I only need to find how to do photorealistic water and photorealistic vector data for highways / urban transport and that's it. 

 

Btw, the fact I am using USA2 data for the tile and Google data for the autogen does not change a thing - I will copy only the data from the texture folder, which is the autogen created from ScenProc. That way I will preserve the quality of the USA2 Tile imagery for the ground. 

Edited May 6, 2023 by PavlinS