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>Or should I say a revised addition of ASX??>>Active Sky Advanced>http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho..._id=36495&page=>>Quite frankly, having already shelled out for ASX, which I>think is buggy and lightweight compared to what looks>promising from the FEX Environment simulator, I wont be paying>for what appears to be an update for ASX.:-mad >>My 2 cents worth.Yup. That's about what your observations are worth.Did you even bother to read the announcement or visit the website? A flight planner is an "update" for ASX? Some of the other products mentioned are related to weather but certainly don't appear to be an "update".Your loss,VicQ6600 G0 CPU 2.4 o/c 3.6Evga 680i A1 with P30 BIOS 2G XP2-8500 DDR2 1066FSB Mushkin 996535 RAM 5-5-4-12-2T320G 7200 HD partitioned for XP/Vista/Programs 2 - 74G Raptors in RAID0 500G 7200 HD for backup SATA DVD burner Evga 8800GTS 640 PCIx Kandalf LCS case w/ built in liquid cooling 850W Thermaltake power supplyVisit the Virtual Pilot's Centerwww.flightadventures.comhttp://www.hifisim.com/banners/hifi-supporter-sigbanner.jpgRadar Contact Supporter: http://www.jdtllc.com/

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>Yup. That's about what your observations are worth.>Did you even bother to read the announcement or visit the>website? A flight planner is an "update" for ASX? Some of the>other products mentioned are related to weather but certainly>don't appear to be an "update".>>Your loss,>>VicYes I've read the post. >Finally in this trio of new products, Active Sky Advanced is announced, >targeted for release in fall/winter 2008. This will be a new-generation >weather simulation system giving all the graphical features and detailed >weather features you have come to expect from HiFi, but super-charged >with dozens of new unique features.Seperate product, my friend. Go flame someone else.

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Hi All,Please cool it! Opinions are welcomed. If the OP thinks this way and has never posted or e-mailed us for support, then that is his opinion. If, a year from now, he chooses not to upgrade with a significant discount to ASA that is also his choice. No need for attacks either way!Jimhttp://www.hifisim.com/banners/hifi-community-sigbanner.jpghttp://www.hifisim.com/

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Certainly are putting a lot of effort into a sim that has so far been pretty much a flop. I honestly just don't think FSX is worth the effort, time and money of two iterations of AS. But that's just me.

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Hi Alex,You too have your own opinion about FSX and it is in your every post, fine with that. Now, let me ask: do you have the actual sales of FSX? Nope. How about our HiFi products? Again, nope. Therefore, you have no idea whether or not FSX is worth the effort, time and money, but we do!Jimhttp://www.hifisim.com/banners/hifi-community-sigbanner.jpghttp://www.hifisim.com/

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Considering Asx is some of the best money I have spent-I look forward to all the upcoming improvements. I have been upgrading for reasonable fees since the beginning of the 1st version, and each version just gets much better.I believe has already been stated publicly by MS that fsx has been the best selling version of flight sim ever-so even though we may not know the exact sales I think we can put one point of conjecture to bed. Jim knows the other figure-and the new Asx versions seem to imply otherwise here also.http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpgForum Moderatornew http://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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Ok, the sales figures are great, but the community that would actually spend $70 on a weather add-on (I bought ASX by the way, love it) hasn't accepted FSX like everyone was hoping. I'm just not going to spend close to $100 on weather add-ons when ASX alone is doing the job fine.

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Are you the spokesperson for the "community" or is that your opinion?Just curious.

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It's my opinion, but isn't it also pretty obvious why I have that opinion? A year after FSXs release and some of the most highly anticipated add-ons are coming out for FS9. I think that says something about the rocky transition. But because I know exactly where this conversation is going I'm done responding to you before it gets out of hand.

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>Maybe you getting a bit too gullible, or is it the>same for all a really excited user?It's the same, and always the same ones. And they can say the same thing about the realists, and it's back and forth, ad infinitum.

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Maybe you getting a bit too gullible, or is it the same for all a really excited user?---------------------------------------------Geofa is not only an old-timer around AVSIM, but is one h*ll of an accomplished real-world pilot. He has traversed the U.S. from coast to coast a few times aboard a couple of airframes that I know he has owned and does own to date.I personally didn't like the look of FSX as well as the performance, BUT...I wouldn't call those that absolutely find it satisfying to be labelled as a really excited user.If so, we who did not like this incarnation could be labelled as whatever THEY wish to pin on us. Nobody has so far labelled us as anything from the 'a really excited user' camp.When Geofa and other real-world pilots make comments as to pro or con on items and issues pertaining to ANY M.S. flight sim, you and I would do well to seriously listen. They have the 'real world handle' to offer that is priceless for this hobby of ours and give us this insight for free....Respectively stated,Mitch

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I'm sure the new and improved version will be great......but where does this leave ASX?There is one glaring problem with ASX right now that almost renders it useless - the wind shift issue.I know this is primarily a MS/ACES issue and it seems 'simconnect' is not all it was cracked up to be.However, there seems to be very little communication between customers/Hifi/ACES to let us know exacltly where this windshift problem stands. Hifi blames ACES, ACES don't comment rinse and repeat.Hifi have always come up trumps in the past and I am sure they will do so again with ASX Advanced. I think ASX has turned out to be the first product on a learning curve for the new sim platform.I will be interested to see how ASX Advanced compares with the FEX Environment Simulator. Competition is always a good thing!Glenn

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On their webpage one of the improvements they mention that one of the new improvements will be:"New Smoothing techniques Harsh wind shifts and instant visibility/cloud cover transition has been essentially eliminated using new wx control techniques. "It also sounds like integration will be possible with other products.Since I really like the fex clouds-nice if integration will be possible.Here is their website for reading:http://www.hifisim.com/asnext.php?title=ASA%20Detailshttp://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpgForum Moderatorhttp://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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Hi Geoff,Sorry, maybe I didn't explain myself very well in that last post.I have read the info on the hifi page, but my concern is that ASX is still in it's infancy and has a major issue with windshifts.Now it appears that to eliminate the windshift issue it is going to mean buying a new version known as ASX Advanced.On reflection, maybe this is not such a bad thing if the discount for existing ASX owners is of a good proportion!Glenn

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I truly hope the wind shift issue is fixed. I thought is was gong to be fixed in ASX. I can't use ASX with a jet on autopilot because it gets tossed out of the sky if I leave the plane to walk my dog. :) Bob...

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It's great that he's accomplished all that flying and I enjoy reading his insights and pictures, but I'm not going to carbon copy his opinion on expensive add-ons because of his real world flying abilities. The reality for me is that this new ASX would have to be either a very cheap upgrade or absolutely jaw-dropping incredible because I've found that for me FSX is only enjoyable under very limited circumstances.

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Gee...I dunno, I've been using FS since FS5, fly almost entirely in FSX now, am shelling out as much bucks as I want for all the third party stuff (as I did in FS9), and will probably shell out more for these promising products as well.If there wasn't a market for these products, they would not be taking the time to develop them.Personally, I like what I see, especially the flight planner...after seeing these announcements, I am holding off purchasing another planner, as I know the quality Hi-Fi will provide.

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>It's my opinion, but isn't it also pretty obvious why I have>that opinion? A year after FSXs release and some of the most>highly anticipated add-ons are coming out for FS9. I think>that says something about the rocky transition. >I Disagree most heartily>But because I know exactly where this conversation is going>I'm done responding to you before it gets out of hand. If you can't take the heat...RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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>There is one glaring problem with ASX right now that almost>renders it useless - the wind shift issue.>>I know this is primarily a MS/ACES issue and it seems>'simconnect' is not all it was cracked up to be.>>However, there seems to be very little communication between>customers/Hifi/ACES to let us know exacltly where this>windshift problem stands. Hifi blames ACES, ACES don't comment>rinse and repeat.The "wind shift issue" is absolutely an FS problem. It has been so for the past three versions of FS. Pete Dowson was able to hack into the data stream of FS9 in his FSUIPC module to mitigate the sudden wind shift into a "smoother transition."Unfortunately, FSX has changed all the internal offsets used by his "hack," so of course this smoothing algorithim no longer functions.SimConnect has yet to implement the hooks needed to make this possible as well. Since the public announcement of the upcoming "DevCon" it's no longer any "secret" that many payware and freeware developers have been actively working with ACES over the past eighteen months. Specifics of what has been discussed of course remains priveleged information. :)So, if any particular developer states that "it's an FS problem," you can reasonably accept that as gospel, unless contradicted in public by one of the ACES's representatives who post here... ...I know that I've been corrected at least once! :-lol

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Whilst I am happy that there is a fix in the pipeline for the annoying windshift issue, I am NOT happy that it isn't going to be fixed in ASX. HiFi Sim has stated all along that this issue would be fixed in ASX if it could be fixed outside of the FSX engine, which obviously it can since the new ASA product will fix it, so I don't see why ASX can't be given this same fix.. FWIW, ASX meets all my current FSX weather needs, except windshift control.Gary

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Hi Geofa,My comments were to WingNut (in which I captured and quoted) which seems he has retracted or removed his O.P.In this reply, I would say that my intent other than the a really excited user irritant, was that you as well as other real-world pilots add tremendously to this verbal exchange within ALL forums and upon all issues, and that I see yours as well as other real-world pilot's 'opinions' to come with serious credentials.This does not mean that one must carbon-stamp what you say, and that is not what I meant AT ALL. I would only hope that one disagreeing with you, or other real-world pilots, would read three or four times your comments, and then digest them. You have been there...the lot of you, while a lot of us hobbyists have turned off the computer, and pushed away from our desks. I hope you guys and gals never sell your computers, (smile).I find real-world pilot's forum inputs valuable, and premium.That was my brunt.Cheers!Mitch

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>Whilst I am happy that there is a fix in the pipeline for the>annoying windshift issue, I am NOT happy that it isn't going>to be fixed in ASX. HiFi Sim has stated all along that this>issue would be fixed in ASX if it could be fixed outside of>the FSX engine, which obviously it can since the new ASA>product will fix it, so I don't see why ASX can't be given>this same fix.. FWIW, ASX meets all my current FSX weather>needs, except windshift control.>>GaryI concur!

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