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What could cause these displaced forrests and trees?

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Hello all, maybe someone has an idea.

When i fly in the area of LILN (northern italy, close to Switzerlands Lugano Airport), i see a lot of these round forrests, placed randomly over the area.

In Towns, on fields, on roads, while the real forrest areas are simply plain.

MSFS fully updated with all WU and SU. Most settings on high. No mods or airport addons in this area. Never seen this in other areas of the world.

I use Rex Accuseason (daily updates).

What could be the reason? Always thought the Blackshark AI places the forrest according the BING satellite pictures. Here it clearly does not. When i fly 30 nm in any direction, it normalizes. Also in the area of Lugano (LSZA), its visible.

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Another example:

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Regards, Jan Ast

Win 11 PC | Ryzen 7800 X3D | RTX 5080 | LG 42 C2
Cockpit 😉 | TrackIR 5 | Octavia IFR-1 | Virpil Alpha on WarBRD, Virpil CM3 Throttle, Virpil Sharka Control Panel | Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo | TM TPM Rudder

Blackshark AI does a pretty good job overall for an automated system, but it is far from perfect. I've seen patches of trees in farm fields etc. in many areas and there are certainly misplaced patches of trees in the areas around where I live and am very familiar with. I even sent bug reports about them all the way back in 2020 when the sim was still in alpha and beta, but nothing was ever improved, even in the applicable World Updates, even though their support implied that they would be improved then. The only solution I know is to use developer tools and create exclusions for areas where you no they should not be and add forests where you know they have missed them. Personally I don't bother, however there are some freeware tree fixes for various areas available on flightsim.to. Other than that, I think the only hope is that MSFS 2024 has more precise data than the current version.

Martin 

Sims: MSFS 2020, MSFS 2024 and X-plane 11

Home Airport: CYCW - Chilliwack, BC Canada

i5 13600KF 32GB DDR4 3600 RAM, RTX3080TI  Meta Quest 3

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Hi Martin, thanks for your comment.

Do you see the same effect when you fly around LILN or LSZA? Could you try?

Regards, Jan Ast

Win 11 PC | Ryzen 7800 X3D | RTX 5080 | LG 42 C2
Cockpit 😉 | TrackIR 5 | Octavia IFR-1 | Virpil Alpha on WarBRD, Virpil CM3 Throttle, Virpil Sharka Control Panel | Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo | TM TPM Rudder

Mate I had this at ESSA foe the first time last night (I fly in and out of their daily). 

How long has this been happening for you?

I reckon it was/is due to the server issue currently happening. I got this once before at FlyTampas YSSY and it was due to a lack of BING scenery being able to be downloaded.

Kael Oswald

9950X3D/ 64GB DDR5 6200 @ CL30 / Custom Water Loop / RTX 5090 / 3 x 48" LG C4 OLEDs

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Since 2 days.

Regards, Jan Ast

Win 11 PC | Ryzen 7800 X3D | RTX 5080 | LG 42 C2
Cockpit 😉 | TrackIR 5 | Octavia IFR-1 | Virpil Alpha on WarBRD, Virpil CM3 Throttle, Virpil Sharka Control Panel | Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo | TM TPM Rudder

Looks totally different here, LOL 🙂

Have you installed Italy World Update?

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7800X3D | 2x32 GB DDR5-6000 CL32 | RTX 5080 | Alienware OLED 34" | 1 Gbps fiber 

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Yes i have. Interesting. Cant really understand this different behaviour.

Regards, Jan Ast

Win 11 PC | Ryzen 7800 X3D | RTX 5080 | LG 42 C2
Cockpit 😉 | TrackIR 5 | Octavia IFR-1 | Virpil Alpha on WarBRD, Virpil CM3 Throttle, Virpil Sharka Control Panel | Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo | TM TPM Rudder

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Solved. Problem was the rolling cache. I deleted it, switched it off, now everything seems to be normal again.

Regards, Jan Ast

Win 11 PC | Ryzen 7800 X3D | RTX 5080 | LG 42 C2
Cockpit 😉 | TrackIR 5 | Octavia IFR-1 | Virpil Alpha on WarBRD, Virpil CM3 Throttle, Virpil Sharka Control Panel | Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo | TM TPM Rudder

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