DLSS 2 vs.TAA vs. DLSS 3 + FG

[Fielder 3,744]

Interesting YT video. Both outside and inside views. The cockpit views show the clarity or lack thereof on glass screens.

He is using the same CPU which I now have the

Ryzen 7 58003DX.

4070 GPU (which I will also have in about 3 days).

Monitor is 4K, 16:9

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First, with TAA and no FG (frame generation):

fps about 41 outside, 48 inside cockpit

Next, DLSS 2 (Quality), also no FG:

About 58 outside, 69 inside.

(I have similar relative results on my system).  (My 3070 gpu has no FG capabilities. Dual 1440p 16:9 monitors, almost as many pixels as one 4K 16:9 screen. Ryzen 7 5800X3D)

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Next, he uses both TAA and frame generation on,

fps about 54 outside, 70 inside. (which shows that FG has increased the fps under TAA)

Next, both DLSS 3 (Quality) and FG on. 

fps 81 outside , maybe 88 inside.

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He goes on to use 1440p screen and a HD 1080p screen doing the same kind of tests.

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This video is a good demo of what the 4000 series Nvidia cards can do using DLSS 3 and frame generation compared to other video cards not having DLSS 3 or FG capabilities.

And how TAA can sharpen glass displays vs. DLSS 2 and DLSS 3.

It reinforces what I read online, that a 4070 gpu plus a good cpu, is a really very good match for one 16:9 1440p monitor. (He's getting over 135 fps inside and out with DLSS 3 and FG at 1440p).

But they say for 4K and a good cpu, then a higher gpu (4090) is a better match (4090 32 GB RAM vs. 4070 12 GB)

 

[citationjet 3]

Thx for the link. So what is now the suggestion from your point of view? I have a RTX4080 in my gaming Laptop

Thx

Mark

[Virtual-Chris 682]

Thanks. Can’t watch the video now but will tomorrow.

I don’t feel a need to use DLSS scaling to get added performance. Just FG for me at 4K native is generally giving me fantastic FPS with a 7800x3D and 4090.

It doesn’t sound like he tested it, but there’s a third choice for antialiasing… DLAA which uses Nvidia’s ML models and tensor cores to do anti-aliasing but without DLSS scaling.

I really encourage every GA flyer to try DLAA vs TAA. It’s a quick and easy test. Find a windsock or antenna or other artificial small detail at the airport at some distance from your plane… and then try switching back and forth. I found thin details at a distance didn’t even render with TAA, but I had a bit of ghosting on my displays with DLAA. Updating my DLSS DLL sharpened up the cockpit without losing the details. Then I rebuilt my system and I was surprised that my cockpit is as sharp as ever with DLAA - no ghosting at all. I have no idea why, but I’m now using the DLSS DLL that came with the game (beta SU13) and it’s perfect. Fine details in the distance and sharp cockpit instruments. I dunno. Try for yourself. You might be amazed. 

Edited September 5, 2023 by Virtual-Chris

[Virtual-Chris 682]

2 minutes ago, citationjet said:

Thx for the link. So what is now the suggestion from your point of view? I have a RTX4080 in my gaming Laptop

Thx

Mark

There was recently a longish thread on ideal settings for Nvidia owners here… 

See my settings recommendations about midway down the first page. 

[citationjet 3]

Ok i will start to read through all these pages 😉

[cianpars 1,182]

Still a case of TAA looks better and DLSS performs better for me and that seems to concur with most users analysis of the situation from what I have seen.

As I only have a mere RTX3080 I can't really comment on the FG aspect.

Most of the time I use DX12 and DLSS as the performance gain is greater than the visual loss but for better visuals DX11 and TAA looks much better but as I have so many performance hungry addons I can't really use it.

[Fielder 3,744]

2 hours ago, citationjet said:

Thx for the link. So what is now the suggestion from your point of view? I have a RTX4080 in my gaming Laptop

Thx

Mark

RTX 4080 is about the best there is. Has a full 16GB. The only thing I know of that's better is the 4090. I'm not going on experience, I've never used anything nearly so grand.

[GSalden 4,700]

Here with both 4080/4090 cards I use Unlimited + FG On icw 4K Sony Bravia TV’s ( running at 60 hertz ).Works well. 

Surely with G sync monitors it might be different.

Edited September 5, 2023 by GSalden

[MrFuzzy 2,124]

44 minutes ago, Fielder said:

RTX 4080 is about the best there is. Has a full 16GB.

Be careful because there is a big difference between the RTX 4080 and the 4080 laptop...

Still a good GPU anyway.

[Ixoye 1,841]

Yes 4070 Ti is great as long you are in the air, but on the ground at add-on airports 12 GB Vram isn't nearly enough, at least not for me with a 3440x1440 monitor, I can't recommend this card for MFSF, save up for a 4080 instead.

Edited September 5, 2023 by Ixoye

[Fielder 3,744]

3070 desktop:

CUDA/TENSOR/RT 5888/184/46

BOOST CLOCK: 1500/1725

TGP: 220 WATTS

MEMORY: 12 GB

MEMORY INTERFACE: 256-BIT

MEMORY BANDWIDTH: 448 GB/S

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4080 LAPTOP exceeds 4070 desktop. If I had a 4070 laptop I would use it and be happy.