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Issues with Simbrief & Fenix

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This is happening a fair amount and I'm not sure what is causing it. I try to make a flightplan using the a320 fenix setting and it keeps giving me flight plans with the following message: "The amount of passengers might need to be reduced in order to respect the aircraft's MTOW, MLW, or MZFW." It does this when I set it to auto. It even does this when I edit the plan to remove all cargo and I lower my passenger count to like 130. I don't think I am overweight but I am still getting the warning. Is it ok to load the plan into the plane or is there a problem? Below is a listing of the numbers in my flight plan. 

 

 

Enroute Burn

 8,804 lbs

Passenger Count

 130 
!

Empty Weight

 97,067 lbs

Estimated ZFW

 97,067 lbs

Estimated TOW

 110,944 lbs

Estimated LW

 102,140 lbs

Block Fuel

 14,385 lbs

Cargo

 0 lbs

Payload

 0 lbs

Max ZFW

 134,482 lbs

Max TOW

 162,040 lbs

Are you using the Fenix Simbrief profile?  It can be found on their Discord and linked to Simbrief.  I've never had this problem.  I cross reference this in ForeFlight and it's usually pretty close.

https://discord.com/channels/736572376967282769/976924071608602706

 

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If you get the warning in orange color you should be OK.  The reason that's happening is probably due to the current weather making your fuel burn higher.  

There are some routes that depending on the WX you might need to fuel stop.  That happens IRL all the time, especially on the Jet Blue's 321 that run coast to coast.  About half the time they stop in MCI....lol.  So you can either try and kick PAX and/or cargo off to make weight or do something illegal and kick the reserves as well.

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4 hours ago, red259 said:

This is happening a fair amount and I'm not sure what is causing it. I try to make a flightplan using the a320 fenix setting and it keeps giving me flight plans with the following message: "The amount of passengers might need to be reduced in order to respect the aircraft's MTOW, MLW, or MZFW." It does this when I set it to auto. It even does this when I edit the plan to remove all cargo and I lower my passenger count to like 130. I don't think I am overweight but I am still getting the warning. Is it ok to load the plan into the plane or is there a problem? Below is a listing of the numbers in my flight plan. 

 

 

Enroute Burn

 8,804 lbs

Passenger Count

 130 
!

Empty Weight

 97,067 lbs

Estimated ZFW

 97,067 lbs

Estimated TOW

 110,944 lbs

Estimated LW

 102,140 lbs

Block Fuel

 14,385 lbs

Cargo

 0 lbs

Payload

 0 lbs

Max ZFW

 134,482 lbs

Max TOW

 162,040 lbs

I‘ve never seen such a message on Simbrief. All I get is „payload reduced due to MTOW“ or something like that, but only when I got like 188 passengers and a 5 hour flight. This should not happen with 130 pax, never. Can you do a screenshot of the simbrief page when you create the flight? I‘m sure there‘s something wrong.

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23 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

I‘ve never seen such a message on Simbrief. All I get is „payload reduced due to MTOW“ or something like that, but only when I got like 188 passengers and a 5 hour flight. This should not happen with 130 pax, never. Can you do a screenshot of the simbrief page when you create the flight? I‘m sure there‘s something wrong.

Maybe the warning doesn't clear if you modify the plan once its triggered. My flight was KSEA to KLAX

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