Quest 3?

[JacquesBrel 641]

32 minutes ago, Tierborn said:

So, is Virtual Desktop really any better than using Air Link?

It's a matter of personal preference. When I run wireless I prefer Air Link, because it gives me a few more options to tweak and configure how I like. But Virtual Desktop is of course easier to set up and run.

[Donka 654]

4 hours ago, Tierborn said:

So, is Virtual Desktop really any better than using Air Link?

In my, admittedly very brief testing with Air Link, I would say yes but others seem to have more experience/success with it. There's definitely a few more options with Virtual Desktop.

[spinoza 48]

On 1/20/2024 at 4:07 AM, Dillon said:

Low end/Cheap/Performance may vary - Quest 2/3, anything in the $200 - $600 range (I put Quest 3 here because you get cheap performance is many cases because you're using it over WiFI, you need a solid connection to the PC for a stable experience in most cased)

I use it very reliably at 2.1-2.5 Gbps speeds with a $17 compatible cable (Syntech brand) I bought at Amazon. 

[Dillon 2,198]

4 hours ago, spinoza said:

I use it very reliably at 2.1-2.5 Gbps speeds with a $17 compatible cable (Syntech brand) I bought at Amazon. 

Quest doesn't offer a data cable for direct connection to the computer's video card (flies can be saved but that's it).  It's a bad idea for a PC solution to do Wifi hops for graphics.  For some people it works.  If your one of those unfortunate people to have Buffer Bloat with your internet connection (fiber optic - AT&T) coming into your home this can be a problem.  The more people get onto the internet at peak times in your neighborhood the slower your connection is.  Put that on top of having a home with everyone using the internet in the house at the same time you are or you have an older home your Wifi is going to be spotty.  You don't notice it much with normal operation but if your trying to stream graphics from your computer, to the router, to the headset this can be a problem.🥺  Some people don't have an issue.  Maybe their in an apartment where the service provider router is in the same room as their computer.  The best option I found was the Reverb G2 for the price and performance which took Wifi out the equation with a direct connection to the video card.  Even though 'Mixed Reality' has lost support from Microsoft it's still available and usable for the next two years.🙂  That's more than enough time for an upgraded solution from Microsoft (which is usually the case, they retire one thing for something better their developing in house.  After thinking about it I can't see their competition like Apple/Sony getting into VR and Microsoft exiting the VR game especially with one of their most successful titles heightened by the VR experience.  Microsoft is very proud of MSFS and everyone in that company knows VR is the highlight of this title) or another option presents itself.  If Quest want to expand their VR presence offer a connection to PC's like the more expensive options available would have them corner the market.  The problem is Quest concerning Flight Simulation isn't their target market.  Games downloaded to the headset and/or streaming to cloud games is what their after.😕

Edited January 26 by Dillon

[Donka 654]

Your internet connection should have absolutely zero impact on your internal streaming ability, all you need is a strong wireless connection from your router to your headset with little to no interference. Neighbouring wifi connections can be an issue though, along with other wireless devices in and around your location.

[Dillon 2,198]

44 minutes ago, Donka said:

Your internet connection should have absolutely zero impact on your internal streaming ability, 

Let's analyze what's been wrote here.  "Your internet connection has nothing to do with Internet streaming"...🤪🙃  So you have a bad internet connection into your home and stream HULU or Netflix just fine? 

I believe what's meant here is your internet connection has nothing to do with local Wifi streaming of two devices in the same location (Quest 3 to the PC).  The problem I found is the Quest is always reaching out to the internet for updates or whatever it's looking for.  Mine didn't work right if it couldn't see out to the internet or my internet speed fluctuated.

Edited January 26 by Dillon

[Lucky38i 1,106]

1 hour ago, Dillon said:

Internet streaming

They said Internal.

I can have 60mbps internet while still have a wifi6 router. That means outside of my household I can download/upload at 60mbps. My devices speaking within the household can communicate up to 2.5gbps or whatever is the rated bandwith of that specific router. Streaming PCVR games from your PC to your VR headset is not affect by your downstream speads outside of your household.

Your Quest will of course, go use the internet for running updates, but for streaming it won't. Maybe you need a better router? Or you perhaps using wifi on your PC? the latency there will be astronomical as opposed to using ethernet.

[Donka 654]

2 hours ago, Dillon said:

Let's analyze what's been wrote here.  "Your internet connection has nothing to do with Internet streaming"...🤪🙃  So you have a bad internet connection into your home and stream HULU or Netflix just fine? 

I believe what's meant here is your internet connection has nothing to do with local Wifi streaming of two devices in the same location (Quest 3 to the PC).  The problem I found is the Quest is always reaching out to the internet for updates or whatever it's looking for.  Mine didn't work right if it couldn't see out to the internet or my internet speed fluctuated.

Yup, I said internal and assumed that was a given anyway given we are talking about the Quest 3 and streaming MSFS to it. I've seen people online wrongly assuming their Internet connection had any bearing on it hence me making this point.

Edited January 26 by Donka