February 14, 20242 yr How do I interpret the visibility in the METAR correctly? Let's say the METAR reports 9000 meters, I was under the assumption, that I could see 9km in either direction. I had to go around at the minimums a few times lately. Whenever the METAR is not 9999, the fog appears quite dense. I made a habit of checking the perceived visibility when it is not 9999 and came to the assumption, that MSFS interprets the visibility as the diameter instead of the radius. In other words, the visibility is halved. This screenshot was taken at GCTS this morning, the runway is 3.2km long for reference. The visibility here looks much closer to 4.5km instead of 9km to me. Does anyone know which interpretation of the METAR is correct?
February 14, 20242 yr You're right, you should be able to see 9KM in any direction - and agree, that's nowhere near 9km, but can't help you with why? Eugene
February 14, 20242 yr I'm wondering whether it might be a units mixup <?>. 9km would give you 4.85nm.
February 14, 20242 yr The visibility reported in a METAR is the prevailing visibility, defined as the minimum viewable distance over at least one-half (180 deg) of the horizon. So it's entirely legit to have a situation where 9km PV might give you 9km looking one direction, yet much less in another. If RVR or RVV are reported, they reflect the measured visibility at the approach end of the runway looking down the runway (RVR) or at some point other than the approach end (RVV). A typical morning fog situation on an eastbound runway 09 (looking into the sun) might be 3SM R09/1200FT, which means 3 miles visibility over at least half the horizontal plane, but only 1200 ft when looking down runway 09 from the approach end. If you're flying a Cat I ILS with a typical 200 ft HAT in that weather, you're probably gonna end up going missed approach, since you need more like 2400ft vis to see the runway at DH. Also keep in mind that the METAR might be up to an hour or more more old...visibility can and often does change quickly, which is why ATIS/ASOS or ATC reports are used for operations and METARs for planning. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
February 14, 20242 yr I've never seen an ATIS change meteorological data without a corresponding METAR being generated first though, so if you're hitting refresh every couple minutes on WSI you're gonna see a new METAR before a new ATIS. I've checked the MSFS visibility depiction during very low vis and found it to be very good. I use runway lights or centerline lights for reference; runway edge lights are 200ft apart, and centerline lights are 50ft apart (in the US, unsure if it's a meter-based value elsewhere.). So if you're sitting on a runway in 600rvr, you should be able to see 3 runway lights during the day, and 12 centerline lights in front of you. It's usually pretty darn close. In higher vis, you have to take into account the fact that the sim is blending vis at your airport with vis at the next airport in the direction you're looking. Like Bob said, this is not an unrealistic situation, to have different visibilities in different directions. Andrew Crowley
February 15, 20242 yr Author Thanks guys for your input, this clarifies a few things. I still find it strange, that anything less than 9999 means an automatic go-around for any non precision approaches. As I said, I kept an eye on this for the past weeks and I'm sure its not airport blending. Southern Tenerife was in a dense fog all the way to the sea. Here is another example at VNKT, the runway is 4km long: The METAR was stable at that time, there are no other airports nearby and the whole valley was filled with fog, this is not a low cloud. I hope that Ambient Visibility in the debug menu would give a clue to what is going on, but it seems kind of unrelated to the perceived visibility. Does any one else have this problem with the visibility? If so, I will file a Zendesk ticket.
February 15, 20242 yr My understanding is that MSFS generates the weather based on METAR reports. It has no way of knowing what the actual instantaneous weather looks like at different points and directions at any airport. Johan Pienaar
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