Hi all, hope I'm writing in the right section of the forum.

Right now my system is:

CPU 13600K

DDR5 32GB 6800

AMD 7900XT

2TB NVME for FS2020

Runnning triples at 2K

GPU is always around 60%, no more. And main thread is quite hammered. Could it make any sense to upgrade to a 14700K? Selling my actual CPU, I could do it without spending too much money.

Using the PC also for other stuff, I'd prefer to avoid a 14900K, for the cost and also not having to deal with cooling, power consumption and so on.

Thanks.

It really all depends on what you are looking for. Throwing money at hardware and hoping that will solve whatever issue you may perceive as having is never a wise choice nor a solution.

What is it you are looking for? Are you "number peeping"? Constantly checking fps or cpu/gpu utilisation? Or are you getting an unsatisfactory sim experience such as stutters, freezes etc? Or is your sim actually running smoothly with the settings at close to where you'd like them to be? Sliders to the right doesn't necessarily mean a visual feast and setting them to 'high' or even 'medium' (depending on the slider) will not have a significant impact on eye candy yet help quite a bit as far as performance is concerned especially with a mid to upper build such as yours.

My system is comparable to your specs and I have FS2020 running very satisfactorily. Pleasing visuals and decent performance particularly if I need to use Lossless Scaling in certain instances. AutoFPS is always active on my setup. I do get the odd hiccup when approaching a heavy airport (tubeliner jockey here mainly) but that is usually because I have most of my add-on scenery on a spinning drive (planning an upgrade to that soon).

 

 

 

I must admit i also like "looking at numbers". Bad habit I know.

Once airborne is quite smooth, but during taxi, approach or similar situation, so so, expecially if hand flying without autopilot. With smaller planes gets better, with tubeliners worse.

Graphic settings you are right, except clouds on ultra, all the others i keep them on the  medium/low side.

Im also using this pc with fusion360, autocad, or other technical programs, so I was curious if the upgrade can make a difference half about FS2020, half about other programs too.

Thhanks.

 

4 hours ago, ConairMSFS said:

I must admit i also like "looking at numbers". Bad habit I know.

In my opinion it's ok to number-peep while you're testing and setting things up, but after that, don't do it...it's a rabbit hole.

4 hours ago, ConairMSFS said:

Once airborne is quite smooth, but during taxi, approach or similar situation, so so, expecially if hand flying without autopilot. With smaller planes gets better, with tubeliners worse.

You should try out the AutoFPS app speedy Tony mentions, it'll really help on taxi and approach etc.

4 hours ago, ConairMSFS said:

Graphic settings you are right, except clouds on ultra, all the others i keep them on the  medium/low side.

Im also using this pc with fusion360, autocad, or other technical programs, so I was curious if the upgrade can make a difference half about FS2020, half about other programs too.

Thhanks.

 

I would try the AutoFPS app first, then see how it shakes out.  MSFS2024 will be out soon and it may change how things run, assuming you purchase it.  I would be reluctant to go 14xxx right now if I had a 13600K give the new sim around the corner.  Even if you stay on 2020 they may be backporting some of the MSFS2024 tech into 2020 as they've said, so that too may be a consideration.

Thanks to both of you.

Looks like autofps is doing his job.

Still have to read the manual and set it up better, maybe with a tubeliner at eddf with traffic. But during a  test flight with the duke at smaller airport, i finally had a taxi and approach with good fps and smoothness.

Will do more testing/flights, but probably I'll wait for 2024 to see how it runs before thinking about CPU upgrade. I like sometimes to upgrade/buy new stuff, but dont wanna waste money either.

13600k 14600k are practically the same, I have a 13900k and I didn´t plan to change at all because the difference is too small. I recommend even wait for a few weeks for the new Intel models, though the differences again are almost none, and then wait for a review or comparison in MSFS.

 

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Leaked Core Ultra 5 245K multi-core performance fails to noticeably set itself apart from Core i5-14600K

The Intel Core Ultra 5 245K is expected to pack a mix of 6 Lion Cove P-cores and 8 Skymont E-cores. (Image source: Intel, Yue Ma on Unsplash, edited)

Cinebench R23 Multi-Core performance of the upcoming 14-core Intel Core Ultra 5 245K Arrow Lake CPU has leaked. According to the 25,000+ result, the ARL-S chip should comfortably leave the Ryzen 5 9600X and the Ryzen 7 9700X. However, Core Ultra 5 245K seemingly only offers a marginal improvement over the Core i5-14600K.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Leaked-Core-Ultra-5-245K-multi-core-performance-fails-to-noticeably-set-itself-apart-from-Core-i5-14600K.893009.0.html

 

 

And maybe the new AMDs X3D better also in a few weeks apparently, though you have to buy new MOBO etc. like with the new Intels....

Edited September 29, 20241 yr by peloto

26 minutes ago, peloto said:

13600k 14600k are practically the same, ........

I recommend even wait for a few weeks for the new Intel models, though the differences again are almost none, and then wait for a review or comparison in MSFS.

Was thinking about 14700k for a couple of Pcores more, yeah a 14600K would make no difference at all.

For a complete change usually I wait for two gen step.

With small planes autofps did great, now having EDDF/LIMF with the fenix, and autofps cant do miracles.

Anyway no hurry, just thinking about it and looking around.

Edited September 29, 20241 yr by ConairMSFS

2 hours ago, ConairMSFS said:

Was thinking about 14700k for a couple of Pcores more, yeah a 14600K would make no difference at all.

For a complete change usually I wait for two gen step.

With small planes autofps did great, now having EDDF/LIMF with the fenix, and autofps cant do miracles.

Anyway no hurry, just thinking about it and looking around.

MSFS is almost single thread said by developers, and in that almost all nowadays intel CPUs are the same. In MSFS 2024 are saying that is more multicore, who knows, though 6 physical cores(+8 e-cores) it is very well for MSFS. Try disabling HT Hyperthreading and VT Intel virtualization in BIOS CPU options, it is better and noticeable for MSFS, and more the second for me.