Hello

what a beautiful bird the VC-10. I have recently seen here 

 in a nice video that  VC-10 Professional by Just Flight can be used in p3dv5! Adam thanks for that! It was well known that the VC-10 Jetliner by Just Flight in p3dv5 works.

In fact, I could install the professional version (using the installer by simmarket) and it seems that it works in p3dv5.4. However, I have had some issues with the startup procedure from cold and dark. Control+E works pretty well. To start up from cold and dark I followed the example in the manual, also the checklist in the manual and finally the detailled description in the video but the engines did not spool. It is probably that I am doing something wrong but I wonder if someone with more proficiency than me will succeed to make it run. I dont think that it is an issue with p3dv5 as I could not start it either in p3dv4. I could start the JF VC-10 jetliner version but not the professional one. If you succeeded starting up the VC-10Prof in p3dv4 or p3dv5, would you mind writing down the main needed steps in a form of a kind of check list (I dont mind lights and stairs and so on...) for engines to start?

THX!

 

 

Edited October 14, 20241 yr by rylabics

The JF VC-10 professional doesnt work in relation to engine start in P3Dv5 (which I think is the case in the video from Adam as well!) The "ordinary" VC-10 does however work (see e.g. the video below that I made trying out this aircraft)

 

Hi @Blasb and many thanks for your post. Well, that is what I would like to know. As far as I know Adam @adam77  is using the VC-10 professional version in p3dv5.4 and he succeeded starting up the aircraft. I tried in p3dv5.4 with the professional version and could not start it up from cold and dark. I would like to know what I am doing wrong and that is the reason of my post. I tried also in p3dv4 with no success. I could, however started up the jetliner version. Have you tried the professional version in p3dv5 or in p3dv4? My question is about the professional version. 

Edited October 14, 20241 yr by rylabics

52 minutes ago, rylabics said:

Hi @Blasb and many thanks for your post. Well, that is what I would like to know. As far as I know Adam @adam77  is using the VC-10 professional version in p3dv5.4 and he succeeded starting up the aircraft. I tried in p3dv5.4 with the professional version and could not start it up from cold and dark. I would like to know what I am doing wrong and that is the reason of my post. I tried also in p3dv4 with no success. I could, however started up the jetliner version. Have you tried the professional version in p3dv5 or in p3dv4? My question is about the professional version. 

If you watch his video you will notice that he is unable to start engine 1 and 4! There is therefore no evidence that anyone has thus far been able to start the VC-10 professional engines in P3Dv5 succesfully (without using ctrl + E).

I can hence confirm that it will likely not work and that you would be better of sticking to the non-professional version 😔

Edited October 14, 20241 yr by Blasb

1 hour ago, Blasb said:

If you watch his video you will notice that he is unable to start engine 1 and 4! There is therefore no evidence that anyone has thus far been able to start the VC-10 professional engines in P3Dv5 succesfully (without using ctrl + E).

I can hence confirm that it will likely not work and that you would be better of sticking to the non-professional version 😔

Hi @Blasb and thanks for the interesting exchange. Well, as far as I understood in @adam77 video, he did not set any fuel in engine 1 and 4 and that was the reason that these engines 1 and 4 did not start. We should ask him, but I think he put in these words as I said.

Edited October 14, 20241 yr by rylabics

Well thats good news! Maybe best to ask him to do a video showcasing how to get all four engines working! I assume a lot of people would be interested!

23 minutes ago, Blasb said:

Well thats good news! Maybe best to ask him to do a video showcasing how to get all four engines working! I assume a lot of people would be interested!

Hi I agree, I hope that @adam77 will read this thread and could make a short video about the essential (I dont think we care at this stage much about no smoking signs and lights, etc.) steps for starting up the engines from cold and dark in JF VC-10Prof for p3dv5. In the video on the top by Adam I am not completely sure if I missed a step in the whole video duration. I am still checking it.

Edited October 14, 20241 yr by rylabics

Oh wow, I´ll march to the shop the minute this plane starts to work in P3D5.

Hi

If there is someone reading this having experience piloting or at least with the startup procedure in VC-10 I can suggest that we connect online via Teamviewer or a similar tool and go through the whole procedure. That should not take so long. Please let me know. Objective is to determine if JF VC-10Prof in p3dv4 or p3dv5 can be started from cold and dark following standard startup procedure.

Edited October 15, 20241 yr by rylabics

I have tried many things but it does not work...I have the impression the startup of the VC-10Prof is not working in p3dv5. I have the impression that something small is missing. Does anyone know how to change the startup procedure in p3dv5, is it possible to change it?

 

To increase the pain; Justflight just reduced the price considerably.

1 hour ago, Nurmblitz said:

To increase the pain; Justflight just reduced the price considerably.

yes indeed. In the meantime I think i will stay with the jetliner in p3dv5. It is a good comprimise as the startup works and the rest is ok despite being less advanced as the professional one. The thing I like the less in the jetliner is the flightplaner, if you want to use nav mode you have to load the fligthplan at the beginning. There is no INS or similar device....but I can live with that...It would be better the professional one in p3dv5 but it has too many issues: startup not working, flight works in principle ok but when I inserted a flight plan in INS i have some CTDs....All in all is in my case less stable than the jetliner

A wild guess for the cold and dark startup; Flysimware Learjet engines won´t start unless you set mixture to rich :-)

1 hour ago, rylabics said:

yes indeed. In the meantime I think i will stay with the jetliner in p3dv5. It is a good comprimise as the startup works and the rest is ok despite being less advanced as the professional one. The thing I like the less in the jetliner is the flightplaner, if you want to use nav mode you have to load the fligthplan at the beginning. There is no INS or similar device....but I can live with that...It would be better the professional one in p3dv5 but it has too many issues: startup not working, flight works in principle ok but when I inserted a flight plan in INS i have some CTDs....All in all is in my case less stable than the jetliner

Have you tried integrating the CIVA INS by Simufly? I guess you could also try to integrate the VC10 professional version CIVA ins into the jetliner version but not sure how that is setup. (I might try to do an integration of the Simufly CIVA INS, I can get back to you on how that went) 🙂

Edited October 18, 20241 yr by Blasb

3 hours ago, Nurmblitz said:

To increase the pain; Justflight just reduced the price considerably.

Realistic engine start procedures are possible with ground air supply and cross-bleed, and autostart (Ctrl+E) compatibility allows you to get airborne quickly

I'm tempted just to get it solely for the challenge of manually starting it! Does it come with a decent manual and checklists?