It's that time again, Avsim ace UAP investigators. 

 

 11:30 a.m. ET (1630 GMT) on Wednesday (Nov. 13

I do not expect anything of substance from yet another hearing.

Me neither but I'll check it out just in case.

Elizondo's testifying apparently. Plus that Shellenberger journalist guy. 

Edited November 13, 20241 yr by martin-w

 

So rather than me watching 2 hours video, did anyone watch the video or live feed and did anything of substance emerge from this hearing?

Not really, to be honest. Nothing we haven't previously heard. That Immaculate Constellation stuff was addressed, but no doubt you've heard Shellenberger talk about that.

 

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/immaculate-constellation-witness-alleges-pentagon-has-secret-uap-ufo-program-during-congressional-hearing

Edited November 14, 20241 yr by martin-w

17 minutes ago, martin-w said:

Not really, to be honest. Nothing we haven't previously heard. That Immaculate Constellation stuff was addressed, but no doubt you've heard Shellenberger talk about that.

 

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/immaculate-constellation-witness-alleges-pentagon-has-secret-uap-ufo-program-during-congressional-hearing

 

Have a look at the document they submitted to congress RE: Immaculate Constellation. Linked from Nancy Mace's website:
https://mace.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/mace.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/Cannon 212_20241113_154539.pdf

 

Some interesting stuff in there on the types of objects observed, their behaviour, information collection methods and some specific incidents involving various UAP.

 

Another notable point was Elizondo putting it on the record (while under oath) that he signed a document that explicitly forbids him from speaking publicly about (a/the?) UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering program. Make of that what you will.

Apparently there is to be a Senate hearing next week on the AARO side of things. I'm hoping they drag Sean Kirkpatrick to the hearing and make him answer for why the organization, under his leadership, lied or otherwise deliberately misled Congress, while operating under a Congressional mandate....probably won't happen, but I think the Senators (and Congress) are now aware that they've been lied to and they don't seem to be happy about it.

 

 

DB

Forgot to mention...

Another fun observation...the Immaculate Constellation document mentions both UAP and something called ARV/RV "Reproduction Vehicles".

The only other place I've ever heard the term ARV is from Dr. Steven Greer. Whatever you think of him, he has been discussing "Alien Reproduction Vehicles" for decades (man-made craft utilizing reverse-engineered technology from non-human vehicles....operated by deeply hidden off-book groups outside of governmental control). Granted, I'm happy to be corrected on this point.

 

If both of these worlds: Shellenberger's verified whistleblowers and Greer's allegations..... are starting to overlap, we may be in for a wild ride. The implications of the very existence of ARV's are profound to say the least (if Greer's definition is even partially true).

.....and the revelation that there is a deeply hidden secret program within the Pentagon (Immaculate Constellation) tasked with monitoring / tracking both UAP and ARVs, implying that they are two distinct phenomena (known to be of different origins) is....bananas.

Why would the Pentagon need to be tracking or monitoring ARV's in this manner unless they were operating outside of the control of the Department of Defense? ....so another group or nation is operating these vehicles, and the US has lost dominion over its airspace.

 

This is either the most elaborate decades-long psyop within a psyop, or we might be about to go off the deep end. I'm not sure I like either option.

//opinion.

DB

16 hours ago, martin-w said:

Not really, to be honest. Nothing we haven't previously heard. That Immaculate Constellation stuff was addressed, but no doubt you've heard Shellenberger talk about that.

 

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/immaculate-constellation-witness-alleges-pentagon-has-secret-uap-ufo-program-during-congressional-hearing

I figured as much.

16 hours ago, DaviiB said:

Some interesting stuff in there on the types of objects observed, their behaviour, information collection methods and some specific incidents involving various UAP.

 

The F22 encounter was interesting. Boxed in by orbs.