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Grumman TBF Avenger.

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3 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

Is this missing because it is modelled on the actual aircraft used for Aerobatics at air shows, as seems to be implied on the Orbx product page?

Yep, according to their Discord forum the Avenger can do snap rolls and you'd be amazed about the roll rate... If the speaker of this comment had anything to do with the development of the Orbx Avenger model it's no surprise it turned out like it did. A Grumman TBM/F Avenger cannot/will not do aerobatics. It will fall out of the sky like a brick. It's a truck, a tank if you will. The Orbx Avenger model was created according to the real Avenger VH-MML belonging to Paul Bennet's Airshow corporation in Australia. He has been world aerobatic champion a number of times but that doesn't mean with the Grumman TBM-3E Avenger... 😄

Yes, the .50 calibre gun can still be seen inside the turret so it could've been modeled as well :

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Could also be true that the external model was made some time ago and so the gun was not part of the original model. Not sure but i have hunge that the extraordinairy beautiful external and internal model was made by a professional modeller and bought by Orbx who 'took care' of adding the flight dynamics, programming, sounds, additional modeling, etc. I could be wrong but i don't think so.. 😉 

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Avangel does the Cobra...

 

5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB  PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.

 

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But the graphics inside and out are wonderful !

5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB  PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.

 

Absolute ! But she's a hippopotamus not a cobra. 😄 

Sorely disappointed with this sim product. It will just barely do 120 mph in level flight. In a power on dive it might make it to 140mph, nowhere close to the 215 mph cruise, 271 max speeds listed for the TBF. Worse, this turkey floats like a cub with an STOL kit. No need for an arrestor cable with this baby as one can easily land on a deck without the hook and then depart in the remaining distance. Then there is the modern panel that greatly disappoints, as do the camera views that shift the perspective to the engine accessory section. If I wanted Garmin radios, I would fly the Asobo TBM. Love the TBF, not happy with this rendition of it.  

~ Flyingwrench

 

same here - am suffering 'buyers remorse' - things like opening the canopy on downwind caused the airplane to go into serious crash mode - every time it re gened just crashed again - got the flaps mapped on my stick - put them down - down they go as you are holding the button - take your finger off the flaps button & they just retract themselves - the ony way I found was to use the mouse to lower them a little at a time - just destroys the approach having to pause the sim to lower each stage of flaps - shame - just great graphics - next time before I buy I'll wait for the reviews

Rattso

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2 hours ago, Rattso said:

same here - am suffering 'buyers remorse' - things like opening the canopy on downwind caused the airplane to go into serious crash mode - every time it re gened just crashed again - got the flaps mapped on my stick - put them down - down they go as you are holding the button - take your finger off the flaps button & they just retract themselves - the ony way I found was to use the mouse to lower them a little at a time - just destroys the approach having to pause the sim to lower each stage of flaps - shame - just great graphics - next time before I buy I'll wait for the reviews

 Hello,
you don't say which version you are using, however, the crash report on opening the canopy is not in any of the reviews.
I have updated MSFS 2024 to SU1 beta and indeed, now when you open the canopy, a crash is reported.
On that basis, it looks like the beta has changed the simulator environment.
The behaviour of the flaps for you seems to be more likely the way that you have set up your controller.
My own choice is to have mapped two keyboard keys, one for flaps up in stages and the other for flaps down in stages.
This works for every aircraft that I have flown in both MSFS and MSFS 2024, including the Avenger.

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Following the second beta update, to version 1.3.10.0, the crash when opening the canopy is once again gone.
It still be achieved by using the MSFS 2020 version of the Avenger in MSFS 2024,
but that would be self inflicted and not a fault in the model.

I have the flaps mapped to both on my stick & on my bravo throttle quadrant - both have the same effect - flaps have worked as advertised on all airplanes I own on both 2020 & 24 - I'll just wait till the whole sim is fixed before flying the TBM again - as for the canopy I have only encountered a 'crash' when I have done something stupid & opened the canopy way past it's safety speed

Rattso

Cooler Master Cosmos 700M - MSI Godlike X (Devillike!!) - AMDD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (water cooled) - 128gb Corsair Vengeance 5200 D5 - ASUS ROG Astral GeForce RTX 5090 Liquid OC GDDR7 32GB - EVGA 2000W P/S - Creative AE-7 - intel Optane 500gb - 3x 2tb M2 SSDs - 2x 2tb Samsung EVO SSDs - 1x Hybrid 2tb HDD - Brunner CLS-63E Joystick - Honeycombe Bravo quadrant -  Brunner CLS-B rudder pedals - Samsung Odessey Ark 55" - G9 49" monitor

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