I was keen on BATC but it doesn’t support the new flight planner in 2024 which is apparently top tier. 

Are there any ATC add-ons out there that integrate with the 2024 flights plans or am I stuck with default ATC?

Edited July 17, 2025Jul 17 by Virtual-Chris

Do the flight plan in Simbrief, use the Simbrief app in the EFB to import to the flight planner. Easy to do and you get the best of both worlds, and you can use BATC.

2 hours ago, JonathanC said:

Do the flight plan in Simbrief, use the Simbrief app in the EFB to import to the flight planner. Easy to do and you get the best of both worlds, and you can use BATC.

I guess, but I want to use the new flight planner in MSFS 2024 as it looks like it's very good. If I have to go outside to do flight planning... meh.

I guess a better, but still half-assed option is to see if I can export my flight plan from MSFS 2024 into simbrief and see if it can then export the same to BATC. Ugh.

Edited July 17, 2025Jul 17 by Virtual-Chris

None of the current ATC addons directly interface with the built-in planner, though you can copy & paste the route description out of the web flight planner into other things like Little Navmap, Simbrief, Pilot2ATC, FShud, anything that can accept route strings.

If you fly small planes to small airports, something to keep in mind is that Simbrief doesn't have most small airstrips, and the current crop of ATC addons are largely limited to Simbrief airports,  except for Pilot2ATC.

• BeyondATC can't work with non-Simbrief airports at all.
• SayIntentions can't do IFR with non-Simbrief airports, though it can do VFR with them.
• FSHud has its own airport database but it lacks runway data for mostly the same small airstrips that aren't in Simbrief, making them unsusable in FSHud, too.
• Only Pilot2ATC (and the built-in MSFS ATC) can fly IFR to any airport in the sim.

But Pilot2ATC uses old-fashioned Windows voice recognition instead of the modern voice recognition the other three use, and it's also the only one not doing its own traffic injection for ATC to really control all aircraft and not just you. So pick your poison, lol. If you never fly to/from small airstrips (e.g. if you only fly airliners) you may not care about the Simbrief limitation for other ATC addons.

 

7 minutes ago, Magenta Line said:

None of the current ATC addons directly interface with the built-in planner, though you can copy & paste the route description out of the web flight planner into other things like Little Navmap, Simbrief, Pilot2ATC, FShud, anything that can accept route strings.

If you fly small planes to small airports, something to keep in mind is that Simbrief doesn't have most small airstrips, and the current crop of ATC addons are largely limited to Simbrief airports,  except for Pilot2ATC.

• BeyondATC can't work with non-Simbrief airports at all.
• SayIntentions can't do IFR with non-Simbrief airports, though it can do VFR with them.
• FSHud has its own airport database but it lacks runway data for mostly the same small airstrips that aren't in Simbrief, making them unsusable in FSHud, too.
• Only Pilot2ATC (and the built-in MSFS ATC) can fly IFR to any airport in the sim.

But Pilot2ATC uses old-fashioned Windows voice recognition instead of the modern voice recognition the other three use, and it's also the only one not doing its own traffic injection for ATC to really control all aircraft and not just you. So pick your poison, lol. If you never fly to/from small airstrips (e.g. if you only fly airliners) you may not care about the Simbrief limitation for other ATC addons.

 

Thanks for this!

I fly a mix of VFR in the Kodiak, and IFR in the iFly 737, and of course, the important use case here is the 737 IFR flights. So I can live without good ATC and just use default ATC for VFR (or just turn it off).

More importantly, I want to use the new flight planner in MSFS 2024, so I need a solution that can ideally work with that in some way.  So what you suggest may work for me... copy/paste the route into Simbrief and then import that into BATC.  I guess I need to try the workflow and see if it's worth it. But I might just use default ATC with the airliner until someone gets an ATC solution that works with the in-sim flight planner. I dunno.

Edited July 17, 2025Jul 17 by Virtual-Chris

1 hour ago, Magenta Line said:

None of the current ATC addons directly interface with the built-in planner, though you can copy & paste the route description out of the web flight planner into other things like Little Navmap, Simbrief, Pilot2ATC, FShud, anything that can accept route strings.

If you fly small planes to small airports, something to keep in mind is that Simbrief doesn't have most small airstrips, and the current crop of ATC addons are largely limited to Simbrief airports,  except for Pilot2ATC.

• BeyondATC can't work with non-Simbrief airports at all.
• SayIntentions can't do IFR with non-Simbrief airports, though it can do VFR with them.
• FSHud has its own airport database but it lacks runway data for mostly the same small airstrips that aren't in Simbrief, making them unsusable in FSHud, too.
• Only Pilot2ATC (and the built-in MSFS ATC) can fly IFR to any airport in the sim.

But Pilot2ATC uses old-fashioned Windows voice recognition instead of the modern voice recognition the other three use, and it's also the only one not doing its own traffic injection for ATC to really control all aircraft and not just you. So pick your poison, lol. If you never fly to/from small airstrips (e.g. if you only fly airliners) you may not care about the Simbrief limitation for other ATC addons.

 

Your information regarding FSHud is completely incorrect and missleading.
Kindly asking not to post things that are barely known.

Now in terms of FSHud airports database - all airport layouts are read from Flight Simulator.
Even if it's fictional airport - FSHud will read it.
In terms of airport compatability - if the airport has parking spots properly connected to runway, this airport can be used in FSHud and fully reconglizable in terms of flight planning and traffic.
(Again, even if it's fictional airport).

Another thing is airport procedures - all this information is taken from Navigraph.
So let's say if you have some fictional airport or airport that doesn't appear in Navigraph database, you will be able only to perform vectored departures and visual approaches.

Hope it brings some light on missleading information.

Cheers

36 minutes ago, FSHud said:

Your information regarding FSHud is completely incorrect and missleading.
Kindly asking not to post things that are barely known.

Now in terms of FSHud airports database - all airport layouts are read from Flight Simulator.
Even if it's fictional airport - FSHud will read it.
In terms of airport compatability - if the airport has parking spots properly connected to runway, this airport can be used in FSHud and fully reconglizable in terms of flight planning and traffic.
(Again, even if it's fictional airport).

Another thing is airport procedures - all this information is taken from Navigraph.
So let's say if you have some fictional airport or airport that doesn't appear in Navigraph database, you will be able only to perform vectored departures and visual approaches.

Hope it brings some light on missleading information.

Cheers

Does FS HUD work with the in-sim flight planner in MSFS 2024?

Edited July 17, 2025Jul 17 by Virtual-Chris

Just now, Virtual-Chris said:

Does FS HUD work with the in-sim flight planner in MSFS 2024

No, because default flight planner doesn't contain all of the necessary information that required for FSHud in order to build proper flight plan.

3 minutes ago, FSHud said:

No, because default flight planner doesn't contain all of the necessary information that required for FSHud in order to build proper flight plan.

I see… What do you get from simbrief that the built in planner can’t provide?

4 hours ago, JonathanC said:

Do the flight plan in Simbrief, use the Simbrief app in the EFB to import to the flight planner. Easy to do and you get the best of both worlds, and you can use BATC.

I guess this is the way. As much as the flight planner seems better in 2024, it sounds like it’s still not the better choice. I’m not paying for Navigraph though so I hope using simbrief is not an exercise in frustration due to out of date nav data.  

Edited July 17, 2025Jul 17 by Virtual-Chris

12 minutes ago, Virtual-Chris said:

I see… What do you get from simbrief that the built in planner can’t provide?

MSFS Flight planner still doesn't provide proper altitude information and TOD/TOC points.
Besides that, Procedure names consistency - in SimBrief it is much more consistent because taken from the same data source (Navigraph).

4 hours ago, Virtual-Chris said:

If I have to go outside to do flight planning... meh.

You don't. Simbrief integrates directly with the EFB in MSFS with a custom app. You can do everything right from the tablet. You never have to leave the sim, everything is done inside the tablet. 

(Not sure if that's restricted to paid users or not, though)

Just now, JonathanC said:

You don't. Simbrief integrates directly with the EFB in MSFS with a custom app. You can do everything right from the tablet. You never have to leave the sim, everything is done inside the tablet. 

(Not sure if that's restricted to paid users or not, though)

Thanks. I'll have to start playing around with it to see whats possible.  Cheers!

4 minutes ago, Virtual-Chris said:

Thanks. I'll have to start playing around with it to see whats possible.  Cheers!

Hang on, I'll post some screenshots of what it looks like. It's really good. 

https://imgur.com/a/CWmxxv8

Here are three screenshots that show the Simbrief app inside the EFB. You then click generate, which generates the Simbrief part which BATC can access, and then click "import" and it imports the flight plan to the MSFS native planner. Quick and easy