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Training complex GA aircraft in MSFS2020
I'd recommend the following aircraft to start. Unknown about custom missions. Carenado - Cessna 182RG Piper Arrow Piper Seminole (a twin) Cessna 337 (inline twin) Justflight - Piper Arrow
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A study level helo…? You had me at “study”
Ridiculous, the aircraft has been in development since 2023, with the devs outlining that they utilized 3D scans of a real Mi-2 they had access to, plus their own recordings of said aircraft.
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A study level helo…? You had me at “study”
I have the RealSimGear GTN750 hardware so I pop out the PMS750 onto that to supplement the lack of modern navigation avionics in the Mi-2. (Also to display a GPS altimeter in feet since everything in the helo is metric).
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A study level helo…? You had me at “study”
I'm confident it's coming and suspect they don't want to give a precise deadline, as many devs shy away from those now due to the inevitable squawking if they miss it. My presumption is in the last three months of 2026. They know what features they want to add at minimum, and are already working on the 2024 version from what I read on Discord. Regarding the Huey, I suspect the Taog masterpiece threw them for a loop and they realized they have to achieve higher fidelity to compete. This is my guess. Of course, Blackbird/Milviz isn't known for their expedience either. They announced the 737-200 in the *year* 2020 to be released for that sim, and here we are in 2026. From a quick look the Blackbird/Milviz Huey was first announced in 2022.
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A study level helo…? You had me at “study”
Very respectfully, I think that's a mischaracterization, as I think "back burner" means set aside with no active development to appear sometime later...maybe. I am not a company/dev rep, but from what I see clearly in their statements across social media, active development of the 2024 version is going on now, to be released in the coming months. 2020 was already in the queue and finalized first, and they're making a native 2024 by using lessons learned (and feedback) from 2020 to move forward. I think we all know about the new challenges with the 2024 SDK too. So...it's being worked, it's coming, but we just need patience.
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A study level helo…? You had me at “study”
This is now released via Simmarket. 2024 version coming later this year / in a few months with new and native features. https://secure.simmarket.com/digital-aeronautics-mi-2-hoplite-msfs20.phtml The list of features, with a focus on the systems, is impressive.
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A study level helo…? You had me at “study”
My understanding is that the helo has been thoroughly tested and this will be a fully featured release rather than an early access or "beta" for 2020. Also it sounds like these will be very separate products for each sim, with 2024 features to be incorporated later this year via the 2024 SDK (so it's "native") in addition to new avionics options, new external variants (agricultural spraying version for example), etc etc. Additional features for both editions of the helicopter will appear based on customer feedback, so it sounds like if you want to weigh in on "nice to haves" in 2024, then try out the 2020 version. I'm cautiously optimistic as they've proven that they've done their research and seem to be making quite an effort. Early reports just based on visuals from the notoriously cranky Russian flightsim community also show that they are generally happy - they seem to have a few rivet counters and there are a few comments literally counting rivets, pins, and screws to ensure they haven't missed anything (one comment was complaining about missing a pinhead sized sensor in an a/c cooling fan...yes we're at that level), but it's at that level of nitpicky vs showing general displeasure with the visuals. As someone for whom 2020 works better (due to favored addon compatibility and computer specs....too many 2024 issues), I'm glad that the initial release supports 2020, and I'll look forward to the 2024 version late in 2026 (in which I may transition to that sim by then). 23 April via Simmarket, price TBA early next week.
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A study level helo…? You had me at “study”
This is due to be released on Simmarket on 23 April. Price to be announced. 2024 version later in the year with new features and tech based on community feedback of 2020 version.
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A study level helo…? You had me at “study”
I’ve been following them on discord since they made their existence known. Some very impressive screenshots and their systems and sound implementation sounds top notch. Real pilots involved, they recorded a real helo themselves, flight dynamics partially run external to sim and partially internal, etc etc. The release date is due to be announced tomorrow and will occur sometime this month, and will be via Simmarket initially and 2020 only. 2024 to follow. If I recall correctly they applied to be a marketplace provider in MSFS a year or more ago but no progress getting approval (an issue I’ve heard from other devs as well).
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Local Legend 23: Fokker F-27 Friendship
For 2020 users it looks like only a single blank white livery is included based on what I'm seeing in that Marketplace. Not sure what else is changed or degraded for that sim, but it seems to be oriented mostly to the 2024 audience. Inibuilds has failed to follow up on a number of issues with the YS-11, notably a significant geometry / LOD "gap" that appears when the main cabin entry door is open (opposite of the door), so I'm hoping they did a better job with the Fokker, and that 2020 users will get the featured liveries.
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What type of flight simming do you use MSFS for?
Not sure why helos, vintage, and concept are separated out from the others, but that’s what I picked though I’d opt for GA and helos/vintage if I could. Note: General Aviation defines the type of flight it is, not the type of aircraft. Example: PMDG’s Boeing Business Jet version of the 737 is GA - just like a corporate livery on the Fenix A320 is too. Likewise flying a Cape Air Cessna 402 (or in the sim, something like a 404 due to lack of model) would be an airliner. It is great that the sim caters to such variety, though I think most here would advocate for jet airliners 24/7 if they could.
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5 years in, and no quality 3th party propliners?
Version 2 of NextGen's EMB110 is coming to 2024 in the next two months: https://msfsaddons.com/2026/01/02/nextgen-simulations-breaks-silence-with-emb-110-v2-announcement-and-saab-updates/ As someone who still uses 2020 (due to the majority of my favorite scenery and aircraft addons not having fully working 2024 versions yet), I'm hoping we'll see more for 2020 continue through at least the first half of the coming year. Perhaps Carenado's Saab 340 will make it over since they've transferred a few of their other 2024 aircraft to 2020 at this point (and it started life as a P3D-era aircraft anyway). Also, this is coming likely by the end of the month: https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/casa-c-212-200-for-fs20-fs24.460367/
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5 years in, and no quality 3th party propliners?
Razbam *may* be making one for MSFS if they fully transitioned off of DCS at this point. Will try to confirm.
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Microsoft Flight Simulator | Local Legend 22: The NAMC YS-11
Well aware - and that was the reasoning given for ini providing no further support or updates: no time and no additional money.
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Microsoft Flight Simulator | Local Legend 22: The NAMC YS-11
It’s a shame that it hasn’t been and likely won’t be updated to fix the sounds, fix the interior hole in the cabin (across from the entrance when steps are open) and a plethora of other items pointed out on the Inibuilds YS-11 forum as well as the MSFS official forums. I don’t understand having a forum for support when updates are not coming.
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