ant_1984

What's the purpose of the upgrade from 2500K to 3770K? Performance improvement from the CPU change alone won't improve game performance all that much. As for reaching 4.5Ghz on a 3770K on air, that's very achievable without a delid. What's your cooler?

Nice work! Just keep on eye on temperatures with that cooler. It's not quite up to the grade of the Hyper 212 Evo I mentioned to you (Hyper 212 has more heatpipes and a larger/better and probably quieter fan on it), but so long is it's working for you then that's great.

Get rid of that stock heatsink and put in a decent aftermarket one, something like a cheap Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo would do the trick. The stock heatsink is only just acceptable for running that CPU at stock speeds, you really shouldn't be overclocking on it. Throw in a cooler like the one I mentioned above and you're temps at stock speeds will come down and it will also give you more overclocking headroom. You can spend as much or as little as you like, but the Hyper 212 Evo is probably the best budget cooler. As for your performance, yo're talking about a detailed addon airport with fairly high levels of AI aircraft, so what you're describing is not really out of the ordinary. If you want more FPS you can either overclock higher, or otherwise you need to drop back on some AI or some of the detail at UK2000 Gatwick. You'll probably see more benefit from dropping back your settings.

Just to point out it's the GTX 780Ti which has more raw horsepower than the Titan but with half the Vram. The GTX 780 (non Ti), is very marginally less powerful than the titan and with half the Vram. However performance wise in most games the difference is virtually negligible and with a very slight overclock the 780 beats a titan quite easily.

That's not at all what I was saying though Noel. The OP was saying there is basically no improvement from a 2600K to a 4770K, which simply put, is not true. The improvement can be quite noticeable in FSX. Perhaps not in other games, but FSX is it's own beast.

A 5.2gHZ 2600k would be quicker than a 4Ghz 4770K. It would be more like 4.5-4.6Ghz on the 4770K. His numbers may have been off, but what he was saying is correct.

Thanks for trying it out for me. Confirms my observations as well. I was initially concerned my GPU wasn't boosting where it should be. :good: How'd the floors turn out?

No I haven't delidded. Not really interested in going down that path to be honest. I'm running a H110 and temps when gaming peak at 60*C. That's the hottest I've seen it get unless stress testing. Sorry, haven't run cpu mark or anything like that.

Your situation may be unique since you're not using the VC, but probably 95% of people do use the VC, so not sure about that one. But my performance when SLI is enabled on my 780's is actually worse than running in single card config. I have tested same RAM/Faster RAM the works. Mobos were of comparable quality and settings in FSX/Tweaks you name it were all identical. 4770K came out on top time and time again. I don't mind admitting when I'm wrong, but in this situation the results spoke for themselves. Westman has done considerable testing across all his systems as he's mentioned and his results are in line with mine also.

Well for me testing was completed straight after new builds/fresh windows install etc and 4770K comes out on top without a doubt. Other games are not as CPU hungry as FSX and depend more on the GPU, this is the reason you don't see much difference in other games as it's more about the GPU there.

Sorry but that's actually incorrect so long as FSXMark 11 is run properly as per the instructions. It should be done on a fresh install of FSX with identical settings used across systems. Mine was run on fresh installs with instructions followed to the T for both my 2600K and 4770K. My 4.5Ghz 4770K outperforms my 4.9Ghz 2600K.

Just FYI, my 4.5Ghz 4770K is yielding better results than my 4.9Ghz 2600K. The average improvement was about 5FPS if I recall correctly, so there is benefit but it's up to you whether it's worth it to you. 4770K does have some other benefits such as supporting pcie3.0 as well as more native SATA 6GB/s and USB3 ports.

Running dual GPU's in SLI is not currently of much benefit to FSX. Will P3D v2.0 take advantage of SLI at release and if not is this likely to be implemented at a later date?

Isn't LM's refund policy 60 days, so within that 60 days if it's not for you then you con obtain a full refund. You can always try it out and make use of that if it's not for you.

I just recently tried overclocking my 780 and in testing the average FPS in FSX increased by about 2FPS. So whilst not mind blowing it can make a difference, and the little 1-2FPS from here, there and everywhere all add up. This was tested using the FSXMark11 test flight plan with the average calculated based on the last 4 flights out of 5 flights conducted (the first flight you load in FSX will always have lower FPS due to tecture loading etc, so this result gets discarded)