Taking into account downloaded software, joysticks, and the actual sim itself including an expansion pack, would be at least A$700. However, if I were to include all the PC upgrades have done over the years (just to get some decent frame rates), then that figure could easily be into 5 digits, as I upgrade on a regular basis, and have been doing so for the past 20 odd years, so the cost would be astronomical to date :blink: I try not to think about that too much though :blush: