Tiger6k

Amazing. Great update, and I can now fly out of Las Vegas in 110 degree heat without the engines frying before I start them. THIS is why I love PMDG.

We all care about the product you delivered. If we didn't, I don't think we'd be here. This is the most active I've ever been on this forum, and it's strictly because I love PMDG, and X-Plane. I think why some people are disappointed about the sound is this: If you're in the cockpit with the windows closed, everything is AMAZING. But when you open the window, or go to an exterior fly-by view, the amazingness (is that a word?) of the sounds end there. That's all it is, and that breaks immersion for some people. Other aircraft do directional sounds, and raise and lower the volume/wind noise depending on the windows that are open (Dreamfoil's Bell 407), so the bar has already been set, this is one bar PMDG didn't reach. I'm not "ravenous" about it, in fact, I just won't open the window or use fly-by view in this plane. But it's an observation that I made.

Thank you Kyle.

Hm, so I just tried closing the cowl flaps fully while idling on the ground @ 39 degrees Celsius. No temperature issues at all after 15+ minutes. Turning the carb heat on obviously gets the carb air all the way back up to almost 40 degrees Celsius. But should the engines stay that cool with the cowl flaps closed? Fair enough. So should I report the bug about the engines frying while they're off then at least?

What's interesting also is after the engines are started, the carburetor air drops to around 12 degrees Celsius. (as you can see in the picture) How is that possible? Wouldn't the carb air still be fairly hot? Or at least not almost 30 degrees cooler than outside air temp? I would think idling on the ground for an extended amount of time in this heat could damage the engines, but not when the engines are off. Seems a little backwards to me.

I just started a flight in Las Vegas where I live IRL. Temp outside is 39 degrees Celsius. I loaded the plane in a cold and dark state, and immediately I get a message saying "Warning! Carb temp causing engine damage!" After a minute or two (in cold & dark) the engines go black in the maintenance window. If I reset the damage, I can start them and the carb temperate goes down and the engines don't die, but... is this working properly? Thanks, Kris As you can see above, engine 1 & 2 were never started, and you can see the carb heat way up. I reset 3 & 4 engines and started them immediately, and the damage was minimized. You can see the carb heat cooled down after start.

I hope the few gripes I (we) have with this aircraft don't overshadow the aircraft as a whole. So far I think it's a blast to fly. I'm not going to create a post about every feature I love, and trust me, they would outweigh the criticisms. Instead I post about the things I would like to see improved. The fact that I purchased a $70 prop aircraft should attest to the fact that I love PMDG's work. So I apologize to all the devs if it comes across as me being disappointed with the product as a whole. Having said that. I think Don Quixote's suggestion could work. Have a few switches "stick" in position, almost like they do now, but separately. This would allow the sequence of events to more closely follow the operation manual. Instead of looking out the window and watching the props spin, we could use sound, or just a general amount of time after the start is engaged before engaging the ignition. P.S. Thanks for your patience Kyle.

Currently, you have a "Realistic Start Enabled" option. If enabled, you could allow simmers with the proper hardware and assigned switches to start the engines as per Operating Manual. They might need the hardware to do it, but that's why an option works. As for looking out the window, maybe a "Picture In Picture" view of the prop starting, if not that, maybe just a sound que.

Please don't use that as an excuse. Your company prides itself on realism, not only that, but PMDG's reputation is so great because of your attention to detail about most minor systems. So when we ask about said realism, that's your answer? How many of us have flown a 777? Should you then not bother modeling certain minor systems that us simmers would never experience in real life anyway?

Any plans to have the engine sounds increase in volume when opening any of the cockpit windows? Right now the exterior sound doesn't seem to change at all. Also the flyby sounds don't seem to change depending on whether the plane is coming at you or going away from you. Thanks

I was wondering this myself, I tried following the operation manual to bring the aircraft from Cold & Dark to engines started, and this was the one area that you cannot follow the correct procedure. In fact, if the ignition switch is off, the engine doesn't even turn over. (blades don't spin at all.) So the ignition switch has to be on both before pressing the start buttons. Not a huge deal, I'm enjoying the aircraft anyway, but it could have been a nice touch considering other competition and price.

Day 1 purchase for me. I just recently purchased your 737 NGX for P3D and I love it, although I must admit I am a huge X-Plane fan, and hope to one day purchase all your aircraft for X-Plane. Good stuff and thank you for the news.