Phil,I don't believe the PMDG737 requires FSUIPC.Cheers,

Ray,It does require FSUIPC. It will not work without it. I haven't tried the bird yet with the free 3.0 FSUIPC, but it will need one version or the other...PMDG???Tero

Tero,You're quite right - it does but why is a complete mystery to me.What is ridiculous is the loop that PMDG gets into with the two warning messages that appear when FSUIPC isn't found. In the end I had to use the OS to close the application.I have already contributed to Pete's fund so I'll be getting my licenced copy of FSUIPC next week when FS2004 arrives.So PMDG, why does this aircraft require FSUIPC?Cheers,

Almost every payware aircraft requires FSUIPC sir.. it just has to do with advanced functions that normal FS doesn't provide.

My guess is that the reason why the 737 requires FSUPIC is that it is so advanced that it requieres more features than the default SDK's can provide, Am i right ?Regards, Jacob Thomsen

RayThis addon requires FSUIPC to read FS states.postions,winds,speeds etc.All advanced addons that do not use the default gps require FSUIPC to generate the data that you see in your FMC/ND.The only addon in ths class to my knowledge that does not require FSUIPC is the PIC767 as they were able to read FS states internal to their app.A much more elegant solution in my opinion and the app is not beholden to FSUIPC in any way.This is a simplistic explanation but you get the drift anyway.Ron

Ron-You are very welcome to tell the 767PIC developers in their forum what you think of them. Please refrain from doing so in every post of yours in this forum - this is the PMDG Support forum.If I remember correctly, you're the same individual who's threatening lawsuits against PMDG if the patch doesn't satisfy your every need...We appreciate and encourage candid speaking, but you need to be doing so in a manner consistent with respect for your peers (we are ALSO your peers, remember). If you do not start abiding by these basic rules, our patience will not be endless.

RightIt's always a developer decision: Develop own interface or rely on FSUIPC. Exactly the same as using VC++ or GNU tools to develop gauges. It all comes to men/hour versus software cost decision.Jos

Ron and all who contributed,Thanks for the explanation. You learn something new every day.Cheers,

Dear All,What is the procedure with the new FSUIPC for FS2004 and 737NG, will the patch include a licence issue of FSUIPC ?RegardsPHIL

How is it more elegant? Doesn't APC.dll for PIC provide the same functions for the panel that FSUPIC does for others?Ryan

PIC's APS.dll is just a library of PIC code. It might have some FSUIPC-like functionality inside it for sneaking around behind the panel SDK (just guessing here), but it has a lot of PIC specifics in it as well.We shouldn't beat up PMDG for using FSUIPC. The developers chose the best option for them, and they licensed FSUIPC too, so people can't whine about needing license themselves unless they want some of FSUIPC's advanced capabilities for themselves.Lee Hetherington (KBED)

>Dear All,>What is the procedure with the new FSUIPC for FS2004 and>737NG, will the patch include a licence issue of FSUIPC ?>Regards>PHILSo, will the patch include a license issue of FSUIPC (specific add-on key for 737NG) or not?Regards,Heitor

PMDG - thanks for deleting my post. Didn't like hearing the truth eh? Please tell me where I crossed the line - least you can do. I wasn't rude, I just stated the truth. You can't just delete a post because I wasn't brown-nosing. What happened to the 'We appreciate and encourage candid speaking'?Rich.

anyway, back to the origional topic, is PMDG going to be a "sponsor" of FSUIPC, or do we need to get a licenced version?