Hi,Sorry if this has been answered previously - I could not find it...I'm using TrackIR 4 with the clip Pro. Great product, by the way!Here's the thing: When I'm in a plane's VC, I'd like to open a new window / view (also with the VC view in it), move it to my second monitor (which is to the right of my main monitor), resize this new window to fill this second monitor (I run in full screen mode), and adjust the view so it's looking about 30-40 degrees to the right. In other words, set my two monitors up so that they together appear as one wide monitor, so I can see further to the right on the second one. This is, in itself, probably not too difficult, but what I have yet to figure out is: How do I make the second window's view also "link" to the track IR to make both my monitors act "together" (except that the one to the right is offset by those 30-40 degrees)??? By default, only my "main" view on my main monitor is being tracked at the moment...Naturally (and hopefully), this setup would then be expandable to several additional windows/monitors.Hope this is relatively understandable, otherwise I'll be happy to try to explain it again... /Hans

Don't believe it is possible. I would think you would either have to use WidevieW (and additional computers), or the Triple Head 2 Go (TH2G) to achieve what you want when when using TrackIR.ClutchProject 9Dragons

Unfortunately the TrackIR will only work in the Main view of FSX. If you pull up more than 1 view, it can't then be able to react to the secong view as well, as FSX is actually drawing to seperate images, as opposed to one large image. Have you tried running in dual monitor mode, and spreading the main view across both monitors? http://forum.naturalpoint.com/showflat.php...age=0#Post24434

>Hi,>>Sorry if this has been answered previously - I could not find>it...>>I'm using TrackIR 4 with the clip Pro. Great product, by the>way!>>Here's the thing: When I'm in a plane's VC, I'd like to open a>new window / view (also with the VC view in it), move it to my>second monitor (which is to the right of my main monitor),>resize this new window to fill this second monitor (I run in>full screen mode), and adjust the view so it's looking about>30-40 degrees to the right. In other words, set my two>monitors up so that they together appear as one wide monitor,>so I can see further to the right on the second one. This is,>in itself, probably not too difficult, but what I have yet to>figure out is: How do I make the second window's view also>"link" to the track IR to make both my monitors act "together">(except that the one to the right is offset by those 30-40>degrees)??? By default, only my "main" view on my main monitor>is being tracked at the moment...>>Naturally (and hopefully), this setup would then be expandable>to several additional windows/monitors.>>Hope this is relatively understandable, otherwise I'll be>happy to try to explain it again... >>/Hans >You need this >>> http://www.ergoindemand.com/cte_multi_moni...unt_stands2.htm

Hello,I've experimented with the same idea, and discovered the same thing you have found. Specifically, that TrackIR functions only on the view that is currently in focus (i.e., selected). Not sure if this is helpful or not, but I did try hooking up a second pc with wideview, and a second trackIR (which is set on top of my original trackIR). After fiddling with the sensitivities to make sure they were identical, and adjusting the position of my head when pressing the f12 key to "center" the view, now both pc's track my head movements and I have 2 different virtual cockpits functioning as one. Of course, only one is "clickable", but in terms of peripheral views it's great. Finally, your other option is Matrox's Triplehead2go, which makes your pc treat multiple displays as one, so that FSX can display one vc across multiple displays. I'm using one of my pcs with 3 displays on the triplehead to go and the 2nd pc with wideview for a fourth monitor, and all 4 monitors behaving like one synchronized virtual cockpit. Not perfect, and a little bit unwieldy to start up, but pretty cool once it's working.

Hi,Thanks for the helpful replies (and also notice that NaturalPoint, maker of TrackIR, quickly chimed in, which is commendable)!Your reply, srathe, was particularly interesting. At this point I should probably outline my current hardware, which is an nVidia 8800GTX and two TFT displays. The main TFT display is a wide format 22", and the secondary one (to the right) is a 19" TFT. I am running with the nVidia "dualview" setting, and have told Windows to expand the desktop to the secondary monitor.First off, I'd like to explore options for what I can do with the equipment I already more or less have (I'll get to the TripleHead further down)...I don't see a way to resize the main window in FSX (displaying the VC) over to the secondary monitor while I'm in full-screen mode. So I tried to put FSX in a "Windows window" (Alt-Enter) and resize this window over to the secondary monitor. This works fine as far as the actual window goes, but it only displays FSX in the first 1680 pixels of the width of this window (this is my horizontal resolution setting, which I cannot currently "up" in the FSX, nor Windows, settings, as this is the highest available).The nVidia driver does allow for a multimonitor setting of "one large horizontal desktop". However, they say that the two monitors must be of the same resolution and color depth. This leads me to think (and a very short and maybe not definitive test confirms) that this would make either one or the other TFT look pretty crappy. What I'm wondering now is: If I replace my secondary 19" TFT with a 22" wide format (identical to my primary display), will the nVidia card give me the option to select 3360x1050 (twice the width of the current setting) as the desktop size, and, even more importantly: Will I be able to select this in the FSX setttings? Because this would then most likely give me what I want on just the two monitors.Now to the TripleHead: As far as I can tell from the Matrox site, this would provide a large desktop spead over three 19" monitors, each with a resolution of 1280x1024. But if this resolution is not configurable for each monitor, then it would not be a good solution for use with my 22" monitor, and I don't want to give up the wide format. Is this correctly understood? In that case, given the popularity of wide format monitors, maybe they will come out with a wide format version in the future that would support 3 monitors each with 1680x1050, which would be perfect for me...

Forgot to mention the Wideview: Looks like a real cool product that I might end up with along the line. But for now - with a total of just two (and maybe soon three) monitors - I'm reluctant to put up a second PC (which they say is necessary even to just control one additional monitor). I do understand that each Wideview-controlled PC can have two (or maybe even three) monitors attached, but it does not work for just your "main" PC in the manner I have outlined. Then again, maybe I've misunderstood this (but I don't think so, as each Wideview PC - as far as I understand it - is in Slew mode, which would necessitate separation from the main PC). /Hans

Hi,Great questions. I'll take my best stab at giving you the best info I can. Probably worth knowing that I also use an 8800 GTX, with TFT displays(currently, 3 widescreen format displays: a 24" at 1920x1200 native res in the center, and one 20 inch at 1680x1050 to either side; of course, only 2 of those monitors can be hooked up at a time to the 8800, unless you use a triplehead2go). I recently upgraded to windows vista, and whether or not you use XP or Vista will make a big difference in what your options are currently (XP gives you more options, as you'll see).Under XP, Matrox offers a driver (for the TH2GO product) which extends the available resolutions for use with widescreen format displays. The max resolution in the case of 3 monitors is 1280 x 768 on each display. For flight simming (3840x768 is the resolution you select in FSX), this works great, even on the 24" monitor , and doesn't really feel like a limitation (actually kind of helps, since if you go much higher fsx really bogs down from a frame rate perspective). However, for day to day applications, it's pretty poor (especially since it goes through the vga interface instead of the dvi). So I tend to use it only for flightsimming or other ultrawidescreen gaming. For day to day stuff (or for a less expensive 2 monitor configuration), the TH2GO will function in dual-head mode at two screens of 1680x1050. This looks pretty decent, especially relative to the 1280x768. Or you can just unplug your vga cables and plug in your DVI's to the 8800 at native res, swapping back and forth as desired.Here's the caveat. Under their current drivers for windows vista, nvidia changed the way they handle monitor timings and so far won't expose that part of their driver to Matrox, and as a result, the widescreen resolutions are no longer available. You can select them, but the screen gets all scrunched up on the middle monitor. And the dual head mode (3360x1050) is gone altogether. So the best you can do is 3840x1024, which of course messes up the aspect ratio (approximately 4x3 on each screen instead of 16x10). It's still flyable, and looks pretty sweet at first, but if proportions make a difference to you, you're going to dislike it enough to eventually not to use it anymore. Kind of like how some people can watch standard def tv streched across a hi def screen and some people can't. I happen to fall into the group that can't, alas. Doesn't seem to bother my wife at all though :)So here's my temporary solution until (if!) the drivers ever get worked out. My secondary pc is still XP, so I use it to power the two outside (20 inch widescreens) and a third middle screen (old 20 inch non widescreen) which I turn off, even though it's functioning. I run those screens through the TH2GO at 3840x768 and run my main pc through the 24" at 1920x1200, sitting in between the other 2 screens. I hope that makes sense. With wideview and 2 TrackIR's going, it all functions like one superwidescreen display (of course, it doesn't line up perfectly because of the size differences between the monitors and the very slight delay between the wideview linked pcs, but it's good enough to fool my brain and make me feel much more immmersed than just using one monitor or just using the wrong aspect ratio). How that crazy solution ever occurred to me I'll never know. Here's how it looks schematically, if my explanation is too confusing:x2x212with 2 meaning the secondary pc monitors through TH2G0 and 1 meaning the main pc monitor. Of course, once it's set up and running, I just turn off the 2 monitor above the 1 monitor, since it's functionally duplicating what is displayed on the 1 monitor.As to a couple of your specific questions...I don't know if you can select a single desktop size through nVidia of 3360x1050 and then be able to select that resolution in FSX. I've never been able to before, but I haven't tried much because I've never been using 2 identical monitors. I'm skeptical, simply because I've never heard anyone describing such a set up, and it seems that it would make Matrox's dualhead2go a redundant product. But let me know if it works...might make investing in an identical monitor worth it!As to Matrox developing a higher resolution product/driver, I also doubt it will happen in the near future. I say that because they are coming out with a digital version of the product, and the tech rep I talked to at Matrox in the midst of trying to resolve my vista issues told me that it is not supporting any higher resolutions than the analog version of the TH2GO. Not sure why, just that he told me nothing better would be supported out of the gate. We can dream, though, because that sure would be awesome. Hope all of that helps, as opposed to simply making things more confusing.Jesse

Thank you very much for your thorough reply, Jesse! To my amazement what I have written seems to have been understood (well done on your part), and I have no problem understanding exactly what you have described (hat off to you again)!I am running XP Pro, by the way. But I expect to move to Vista as soon as the DX10 update for FSX comes out (was gonna do it when Vista was released here in Denmark a few months ago, but held off in light of all the driver issues).Your information has been very helpful. I do have a second 22" wide format in the house, but I have to pry it out of my wife's hands (no, she's not dead, which of course is going to make it harder) to experiment with the two-identical-monitor setup.Incidentally, like you, I'm also one of those people who can't watch TV streched to pancake proportions (and like you, I have a wife who just doesn't notice when it is :)).If I understand you correctly, you are saying that I could actually get a decent result with three monitors under Windows XP with the TH2GO, right? Like with a regular 19" on each side of a 22 or 24" wide format? Or maybe 22" wide formats on each side of a 24" wide format? If so, does it follow, then, that the only reason why you are using Wideview is because such a setup is not adequately supported under Windows Vista?At the moment I don't see myself going completely crazy with 10-20 monitors, but I do think that three side-by-side wide-formats would be reasonable, and also useful for regular business use. Then again, once the genie is out of the bottle...I'm pretty busy with other things at the moment, so I don't know exactly when I'll be able to go forward. I just wanted to thank you fairly quickly in case I don't get back to this for a few days. Then again, I might be able to do something quick tomorrow, but I just don't know. I probably have some additional questions too, but right now I'm just too beat after a long day to go further into this (it's night here in Denmark)! For now I'm heading to bed to catch up on some of your suggested dreaming... :)

Hey - did you see this, by the way: http://blogs.msdn.com/ptaylor/archive/2007...-available.aspx/Hans

Actually it's a peice of cake - I use it all the time with TrackIR4Do this:1: Go to the keyboard assignment dialog and look for "View - link all (toggle)".2:Assign this to a key combo ( I use CTRL+SHIFT+/ ).3:Load a flight4:Select VC View ( track IR is disabled right now)5:Open a new VC View ( from the menu: Views | New View | Cockpit Virtual Cockpit.6: use keybord/hat switch to pan view where you want it7: undock window and drag to second monitor ( or not if using single )8: Press keys you defined in step 29: press f9 ( or enable TrackIRNow when you move your head both windows will be synced.Easy.BTW, the above was posted during the release of the Demo by Taildragger - seems a lot of folks missed it.Enjoy,VicVisit the Virtual Pilot's Centerwww.flightadventures.comhttp://www.hifisim.com/Active Sky V6 Proud SupporterRadar Contact Supporter: http://www.jdtllc.com/

Hi Hans,Hope you slept well. About to call it a night myself - I serve a church as a pastor, so I've got a busy day tomorrow.A couple of things...1. Yes, currently I only use wideview because of the vista issues with TH2GO. If I didn't need it for that, I would use it to display only a single vc view of the upper part of the cockpit (the bubble canopy, for example in the realair sf260). You should have no problem using it as you describe for 3 widescreen monitors under XP pro.2. I'd recommend that all three of your monitors be the same aspect ratio, even if they are not the same resolution (identitcal monitors is ideal, of course). When you have different aspect ratio, the TH2GO has no way of assigning the proper resolution to each monitor; it can only stretch one resolution across all three equally. The result is that your 19" monitor (for example) would look kind of squished, or your 22" monitors would look stretched, depending on the resolution you choose.3. Yes, I saw that fix Phil Taylor posted, and it really helps for displaying a second view on the second monitor.4. The last post looks very promising for 2 monitors, and I suppose even 3 if one had a second video card in their machine to attach a 3rd monitor. I'll have to check it out! Probably has a frame rate impact, but probably not too much since FSX is mainly CPU limited, not GPU limited on the 8800 GTX.Happy experimenting and flying...Jesse

THANK YOU VIC!!! That's exactly what I was looking for! Too bad it's not very well documented in the FSX documentation - at least I didn't find any mention of it in the learning center. And apparently not many in the community know about it either. But now that monitors are coming down in price so rapidly, I expect that this will be one of the most-used features for most of us MSFS users. If your listening, Microsoft, you should really hype this feature, because it nearly blew my socks off!Unfortunately for my wallet, the monster has now been awakened! This is just simply too good, and in my opinion rates right up there with the TrackIR. Hmmm...I can see I need at least three monitors side by side, and maybe just a couple more top and bottom center. And once there, we'd need to plug the quadrants (for a total of nine), and then add at least a couple more for the outer peripheral vision...wanders off with a distant look in his eyes.....Anyway, returning to reality, can you tell me the following: If I get the Matrox TripleHead and have three monitors side by side (most likely two wide-format 22" monitors on each side and then a 24" wide-format in the center), would I be able to do the same trick, but now with two linked windows (one on each of the 22" side monitors next to the main)? And would this look good aspect-ratio and resolution wise with the settings I would be able to select in Windows XP / FSX? And what's your own setup? And what's this Demo you mentioned?/Hans

Hans,I think maybe you are misunderstanding the Triplehead2go. It makes your computer "think" that the three monitors are one monitor with a very wide resolution. So the linking of "windows" isn't meaningful with a TH2Go; there is only one window.The demo he is referring to was the FSX demo that came out prior to the release of the full game.I tried out the linked windows last night. It's pretty sweet and has potential, but also has some drawbacks. Knocks my framerates down to 1/2 or 2/3 of their original (1920x1200 on one screen, 1680x1050 on the second), although I was able to get semi-smooth flight with anti-aliasing off. Secondly, with the TrackIR, it doesn't seem to link all axis. Left/right and up/down link just fine. But rolling or tilting one's head and moving towards and away from the screen produce bad results - the two screens are no longer synchronized properly. Vic, you don't know a solution to that, do you?Jesse

Hi again Jesse,Sorry, I didn't notice we had gone over to a second page, so I didn't see your last two replies until now!Yes, I do see what you say about the tilting of the head - there's probably no way around that, but let's see what Vic says.Yes, this kills my framerates too, but I'm hoping SP1 (and maybe a quad core!) will make up for that.Okay, I do see what you say about the "one monitor with a very wide resolution". The beauty of this, then, must be that it would eliminate the tilting head (and any other) tracking problem.In any event, it looks like my most likely first plan of attack from here should be to consider the TH2GO. Sorry if you have been clear about this before, but will the TH2GO give me a good experience (aspect and resolution and otherwise) with the 2x22 and 1x24 wide format setup I've asked about (under Windows XP)? /Hans