>This is no accident. Intel knows how to do arithmetic too.>It's their CPU and their chipset. The QX at 1100 bucks is what>it takes to get that 400-600 mhz bump over the Q66 without>insane cooling. Is it worth it? Of course not. It's>ridiculous. But there on the other hand, >>. . . If not now, when? Thank you very much Sam. I have just about committed to the "If not now, when?" model and decided on a QX9650. Get the straight jackets out! I have a list of rationalizations that Bush would even be impressed by! At least I can stick with inexpensive ram, and am looking at the DDR2-800 from crucial, tho with a QX I could prolly do DDR2-667, no? Since I am going to use XP-32 bit initially, I thought I'd just grab 2 1GB modules. Is it true if I installed 2 x 2GB modules I would not be able to utilize dual channel mode, using XP 32bit? If so, I'm kinda stuck with 2 1GB sticks only at this time.Recommendations on a very quiet power supply? See my last post today up top for parts that must be driven by that PS. The Corsair 750WTX I'm kinda looking at, which supports crossfire/SLI, and is fairly quiet, plus has a single 52A 12v rail which seems useful. If a 650W supply would do it I'd go there as long as there is headroom for SLI/xfire later. Also, the newer Zalman 750W ultra quiet looks good, but I think has 4x 12v rails at 20W each, and so could be an issue with ATI cards? Dunno.Thanks again for your responses and time :()

With the unlocked multi, you can set a FSB of 333 (x 12 = 4.0) and use DDR2-666 ram, no problem. There will be No performance penalty. I would suggest getting two, 2gig sticks. 4 gig really is a minimum. You need it all, even with 32bit. Dual channel will work fine with two, 2 gig sticks. Then you'll be all set to add another 2 when you're ready to get aboard a 64bit system. This variation goes, "If not now, unavoidably."Single 12 volt rails are the domain of Silverstone. I have their 560 watt version. Hi current, single rails are a UL underwriter, electrical code problem. They don't like it. My single 12 volt rail works fine. The only problem is that the dang thing is (was) Noisy. I tore it open and replaced the 80 mm fan with my own adjustable speed fan. Higher speed in the summer, slower in the winter. Nice and quiet now . . . and a way-cool, ice-blue glow out the back side. Woah, dude. It works for me, but I really can't recommend it.Look at OCZ. They split the 12v rails, but I can't see this is really an issue. They use a quiet 120mm fan, have stable power at operational temperatures, are priced right and have a good long warranty. 650 watts are plenty. The trend with ALL chips (CPUs/GPUs/ETCs) is toward Lower power requirements. The new Nvidia 65nm 8800 chip (and the 45nm Penryn spins) use less power than their predecessors. Anything that will handle "now" will have no problem with lessor power devices in the future. THE Vcard is Nvidia's 8800GT. It will become a 9800GT2 next month. This will be 2, 8800GT cards glued together, but only give a 30% improvement over a single card. This will be their hi end offering. Let the reviews settle in in this one. They are trying to do an onboard SLI scheme. They have not stabilized SLI yet even on their own mobos and they might just be looking for more guinea pigs. That said, ATI Still has nothing to compete with any hi-end Nvidia product. ATI cards can be Crossfired on the P35 chipset and that's an option, However it just might take 2 ATI cards to match the performance of one Nvidia. The Nvidia cards can only be paired (SLI'd) on Nvidia chipset boards. However. I strongly suggest your stay away from Nvidia chipsets. They have NoT worked with the new Penryn CPUs. That then, precludes SLI'ing Nvidia Vcards. CPU performance has been rolling along, but GPU performance has not progressed in over a year. The 8800GT (or the 8800GTS/512) is THE card to get right now. I'm running the 8800GT right now with the quad at 3.6. All sliders high, except autogen and all AI traffic totally off. I use Ultimate Terrain and Megascenery. From > 4000ft, all's well with 20+ FPS with the default airplanes and 15-20 with PMDG. I want it. I need it. But I'm going to be warry of that 9800GT2. For back country flying, a trade between textures and autogen might be in order. Summarily, that's why I'm not especially excited about a 20% increase in computing horsepower. It's gonna take at least a 4X increase to get this thing running right. From my current 3.6, if I could go to 4.2, I'd get to bump one slider one notch. Then I consider the real reason for all this . . . to have fun. I say go for it.

Once again, very thoughtful comments and thank you for that.I do still have a couple of questions if you would be so kind . . .I liked some stuff I've read about Maximus' power regulation under higher load conditions versus ASUS P5E in this regard. Are there issues about DX10.1 and 8800GT/GTS? How much more would I get out of 8800GT Ultra of GTX in terms of FSX? I did visit nV site and noted the bandwidth and fillrate differences, but haven't yet checked out benchmarks. That is a bit disappointing about no SLI on non-nV chipsets, but it is only a case of covering for a future upgrade path. Not sure what ATI is coming out with but crossfire might still be an option. I have seen the benchmarks and it does appear crossfire versus nV does not look as good as we might hope. Unfortunately I will need to purchase something soon. So . . . the questions that remain:1. Known or anticipated issues with DX10.1 and 8800x cards?2. Any ideas on next ATI cards and how they might fair? I would not be averse to using crossfire . . . I don't think! . . . were there perhaps a very decent single card to start with. I probably won't pick up FSX for a 2-3 months, or more.3. Re DDR2-666 ram: is there no benefit from speeding up the FSB in overclocked systems? I did note the capital NO but I assumed some increasing of the FSB would deliver some definite benefit in terms of total system thruput, no?4. The 9800GT2 WILL WORK with a Maximus mainboard eh? It will be DX10.1, or is that an issue? 5. Do I even need a Maximus board, since FSB overclocking probably is not needed? I did a check using Greg's suggested power needs calculator and were I to SLI (which, thank you, I now know probably won't) with two GTX's, I would be looking at 750W exactly for all components at 100% power. I don't believe that could ever happen, 100% that is. I think all told it would be about 650W for about 86% of full load, which is probably plenty of head room as we know all components are every working full bore all the time. So, a nice n quiet 650W would probably suffice.The issue on the 12v rail as I've read is that some v cards need 30A. From the BFG site on 8800GTOC:"425W PCI Express-compliant system power supply with a combined 12V current rating of 28A or more (Minimum system power requirement based on a standard PC configured with an Intel

The maximus doesn't bring anything important to the table. Just bells, whistles . . . and you get a poster. The P35 is the chipset and the X38s are just P35 marketing jabber. The bios updates are what tend to improve chipset stability and all the P35s (X38/et al) get the same updates. The power regulation is actually more critical for the 65nm stuff. The main point of 45nm is to use less power. Therefore it is actually less stressful on the power system. The P5K-E is fine. Also keep in mind that Vdroop is your friend. It's a design function that is supposed to happen. Vcards: The latest $325 8800GTS/512s will overclock about 15%. With that O/C they are running about the same as a $600, 8800GTX. At least this time it's only $2X for that last 15% (rather than $4X on the CPU front). I've O/C'ed my 8800GT from 600mhz to 700mhz. The FPS increase was about linear. At 20FPS its had to tell any difference, really. All I could say is that it seemed to average up a bit. That's what 15% will look like. DX10 is a total bust. DX10.1 is a total bust, on stilts. DX10 simply breaks FSX for me. Things get unstable and the game becomes a real pain. I never know what it's going to do next . . . and the visuals are Entirely indistinguishable from DX9. I have the new Crysis game too. Heck, I can't tell At All. By the time it starts to matter, it'll be rebuild time anyway. I haven't followed AMD/ATI closely enough to give a good comparison. Nvidia already has the next gen built, but has no reason "spend" that technology. Without ATI's competition, we've been stuck at with the 8800 for over a year now. ATI is releasing something new in the next couple weeks. Nvidia's just going to 'trounce' it with a paired up 8800. Doesn't sound like much. The pair-O-88s will be 30% faster than the 8800Ultra. That's all we get this time, but be sure it will beat ATI's offering. Nvidia has the next-gen 9800GTX ready (so I opine). It IS the 3X we've been waiting for. We've known about it since last spring and it was supposed to be released for Xmas this year, but ATI just couldn't force the issue. Wisely, Nvidia won't spend it 'til they have to. It doesn't matter What ATI comes out with, Nvidia will pounce on it with a 30% bump. On the CPU side, whatever AMD comes out with, Intel will already have a 30% lead. . . . and so it will go for the forseeable future.The Vcard to buy right now is the 8800GT or the 8800GTS/512.Upping the FSB will provide NO increase in performance. The FSB is a Buss . . . Just a Buss (there's a couple PPs 'round here somewhere that steps through the reasons). Increasing Ram speed from 666 to 800 (or 1600) will provide no RW performance difference. You'll see it in memory bandwidth benchies, but Not in FPS or texture load rates. DDR2-800 is the standard these days. Might as well get that.The new Vcard standard PCIe-2.0 means Nothing. Any PCI-E Vcard will work in any PCI-E v1 or v2 slot. The new v2 simply provides a capacity that we will not need for years. DX10 or 10.1 capable cards will also work, anywhere.You're working the PS issue as I would. I like the single 12v rail, but UL underwriters lab does not. I say just give em the punch bowl and let em take what they need. This rail splitup gets fuzzy. I don't know how much actual isolation actually goes on. I got with a couple of PS tech support guys and generally discovered how little they actually knew. I see Anandtech using OCZ and liked their results. the thing to watch is the temperature where the wattage measurements are taken. A frozen PS will put out thousands of watts, until it warms itself up to meltdown. You want to see that it can make its rated amps at 35-40C. That's an honest measurement you can count on. A 600 watter that can keep it up at 40C can handle 750 under more normal circumstances. I have an old 350 watt Enermax too. It's still troopin' along keeping my old P4/2.8 at 3.2. It's been there for years and that old thing takes some juice. Great hobby. Always interesting things to get involved with. Tried to get that new FS9, VHHX Avsim freeware to work in FSX. I morphed at my normal VHHH departure spot . . . under water. They were still building that airport and weren't quite done yet! Hey, how about a float plane?

From what you say the 9800GTX is what I am waiting for. Only trouble is I don't have anything I can use in this new machine as both the cards I have here are AGP8x. I would really like to be able to wait for 9800GTX from what you are saying. What does the soothsayer say on when these things will be on sale in the US? No question the 8800GT is a super solution for the money. Maybe I could pick up a used one on eBay or something just to tide me over. Is the PK5-E crossfire capable? Just like to keep my options open! Who knows, maybe AMD/ATI will pull something out of a hat :()

Thank you very much for the recommendation on the OCZ. I think I got a really good PS thanks! I found it under PC Power and Cooling, an OCZ company:OCZ Silencer 750W Quad PSU Power Supply (Black). 62Amp single rail! Quiet, plenty of headroom, and 5y warranty. Very cool! Got it for the very decent price of $158 to my door.Off to find some memory. I am looking at this, which is CL-6, versus CL-4 for the 1GB sticks:Crucial 2GB, 240-pin DIMM, DDR2 PC2-6400 memory module CT25664AA800DDR2 PC2-6400

Good buy on the PS. A pal just bought that one and he's real impressed (well that the dang thing booted at all!) but how quiet the system is. Here's that build. You'll need this cooler, fan and thermal goop, at least. http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishli...tNumber=7162186The 9800GTX has no official representation at all. It's there, but I'm guessing spring, at best. That 8800GT might be the way to go.Look over this page. This is what ram should cost: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....me=4GB(2+x+2GB)I'm using Patriot. At 80 bucks, who can argue?http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820220227 OCZ distributes ram. At 65 bucks, this'd work too. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820227195All DDR2-800 is guaranteed to run at speeds up to 800mhz. The latency numbers are for braggin' rights. They don't matter at all if you stay at or below their rated speed. Low latency is an indicator that it might go faster. My CL4 LL (low latency) DDR2-800 Patriot went to 960 without a wimper. It made NO performance difference, but see, I get to brag.A 32 bit op system will see about 3 gigs. My initial install was on 32 bit Vista and I saw 3.3gigs. There's discussion the remaining (unseen) ram might still provide buffer room for these goofy OOM (out of memory) crashes. No one know for sure, except a 64 bit op system is the Only, and an Absolute solution to this problem.Yea, PCI-E 2 might come into play in 5 years. However CPU and GPU have to be relatively matched to obtain optimum performance from either. It is likely that a future GPU (that finally has the horse power to actually need the capacity of that PCI-E 2 buss) will be entirely unusable by a current generation CPU. They are a team. The system (CPU/GPU/RAM) will only be as strong as its weakest link. For instance, a current 8800GTX would be entirely unusable by a vintage P4 system. A "then" GPU will likely provide only a fraction of its potential when coupled with a "now" CPU. At least Intel and the Vcard boys will try their Very best to make sure that happens. We try to future proof as much as possible, but dropping a massive Vcard into team-play with a (then) poky, obsolete QX9650 won't help that system's performance. As far as PCI-E 2 goes, it's entirely unnecessary for any current build. Consider, we are just now using the bandwidth that has been available with AGP 8X for years. Still today, AGP 8X would be providing plenty of capacity.

Surely the way to be going is the E8500. Overclocks conservatively to say, 4.4 Ghz on air. There is already a significant difference between a standard E6700 and an oveclock to 3.4Ghz so 4.4 Ghz will make a huge difference. Two more cores don't do much for FSX.Add a P35 motherboard and 4+Gb of high performance DDR2 and away you go.A relatively cheap upgrade that will probably last into FS11.

Here's a benchmark on that new R680/3870X2. 3DMark06 is a popular Vcard benchmarker. The ATI got a score of 4494 on the shader model 2 (SM2) and 4476 on shader model 3 (SM3) and High Def (HD). http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=425431I just ran the same test suite on my 8800GT at 1920 x 1080 (AA off/AF opt) and got 4056 on SM2 and 3771 on SM3/HD. Shader model 2 is the big dog for current gen Vgames (FS included). SM3 is just now being implemented. Look for it in FS11. The dual ATI beats the single 8800GT by 10%. I expect it'd run about side by side with the current 8800GTS/512. The rumble is that the 9800GT2 (dual 8800) will be 30% faster than its single chip cousin. That'd put it (also) ~ 30% faster than the ATI dualie. This is AMD's big bang, so this is (also) all Nvidia needs. Why spend that 9800GTX, yet . . . . and so it goes. Darn! Come on ATI, let's get rollin'.On the E85 front . . . it's got that 9.5 multi, but only 2 cores. I have task manager up on a 3rd monitor as a normal 'fixture' and see core 0 always at 100%, then, cores 1,2 and 3 ramping in and out of 100% constantly. It appears to me that Core 0 works all alone to generate my FPS rate, but the other troops are equally busy loading scenery. That is why there is not much FPS difference between a quad and dual. Only one core is generating FPS. I expect a single core Athlon would provide a similar FPS result. As we have noticed, FSX is entirely happy to fly over just a blurry a mass as one is willing to tolerate. But consider: It's not just about FPS, its also about the quality of those frames. FSX with SP2 absolutely Does use All Four Cores constantly and normally. The extra cores are about increasing the quality of those frames. Three extra cores Triples the potential of a single extra core. A quad does not provide a 2x advantage. It provides a 3X advantage. Hummm . . . Now that I think about it, I think I have a point!

>Good buy on the PS. A pal just bought that one and he's real>impressed (well that the dang thing booted at all!) but how>quiet the system is. Here's that build. You'll need this>cooler, fan and thermal goop, at least. >>http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishli...tNumber=7162186>>The 9800GTX has no official representation at all. It's there,>but I'm guessing spring, at best. That 8800GT might be the way>to go.>>Look over this page. This is what ram should cost: >>http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....me=4GB(2+x+2GB)>>I'm using Patriot. At 80 bucks, who can argue?>>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820220227>>>OCZ distributes ram. At 65 bucks, this'd work too. >>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820227195>>All DDR2-800 is guaranteed to run at speeds up to 800mhz. The>latency numbers are for braggin' rights. They don't matter at>all if you stay at or below their rated speed. Low latency is>an indicator that it might go faster. My CL4 LL (low latency)>DDR2-800 Patriot went to 960 without a wimper. It made NO>performance difference, but see, I get to brag.>>A 32 bit op system will see about 3 gigs. My initial install>was on 32 bit Vista and I saw 3.3gigs. There's discussion the>remaining (unseen) ram might still provide buffer room for>these goofy OOM (out of memory) crashes. No one know for>sure, except a 64 bit op system is the Only, and an Absolute>solution to this problem.>>Yea, PCI-E 2 might come into play in 5 years. However CPU and>GPU have to be relatively matched to obtain optimum>performance from either. It is likely that a future GPU (that>finally has the horse power to actually need the capacity of>that PCI-E 2 buss) will be entirely unusable by a current>generation CPU. They are a team. The system (CPU/GPU/RAM) will>only be as strong as its weakest link. For instance, a current>8800GTX would be entirely unusable by a vintage P4 system. A>"then" GPU will likely provide only a fraction of its>potential when coupled with a "now" CPU. At least Intel and>the Vcard boys will try their Very best to make sure that>happens. >>We try to future proof as much as possible, but dropping a>massive Vcard into team-play with a (then) poky, obsolete>QX9650 won't help that system's performance. As far as PCI-E 2>goes, it's entirely unnecessary for any current build.>Consider, we are just now using the bandwidth that has been>available with AGP 8X for years. Still today, AGP 8X would be>providing plenty of capacity. Sam do you know the numbers off the top of your head re bandwidth and matching CPU/GPU? On the Maximus board you have, are the PCIe 16x at teh 2.0 spec? I guess the main concern for me is two things:1. From what you are saying, it may not be so much a case of do upcoming (next 1-3y) vCards *need* the doubled bandwidth of PCIe 2.x, but maybe will the high end cards in 1-3y *require* a 2.0 slot? 2. On the team concept: what is the team player relationship between lets say a 880GT and a QX9650 running at 4+GHz? How much more video can this CPU support? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing the more stock and slower FSB of 333 (x4) will be, all else being equal, more stable and durable than one running well above that spec, no?I am actually going to try to use a stock HSF on the QX9650. I am using a cooling solution that is pretty effective on my old Northwood at 3.45GHz (3.06 stock) using a retail HSF, and so hope this will continue to work well. The beauty of my system is that it cools the entire PC from mainboard to mem to northbridge to drives, heck, even the box gets cold! In fact, I need to be a little careful in this regard. My high tech solution? A thru the wall Sharp 8.9BTU whisper quiet (oy!) air conditioner! I have the case sitting at point blank range in front of it with the side panel off. The AC unit is very controlable, with fan only and 3 speed fan settings and is reasonable quiet. For low load situations, I turn it off. Since I will be rebuilding I may add some flow routing to direct most of the flow at the CPU, but probably won't need to as it's quite effective. Just two day ago I decided to move the PC a little closer, and with retail HSF on this guy under full load in FS9, CPU temp dove to 51C, which is really good considering it is overclocked as it is. Without this cooling it would be above 70C easy.Are the 16x slots on the Max Formula board at the 2.0 standard, or is it the non-16x slots that are at the 2.0 spec? If it's the latter, then it's a no brainer, I can go with the P5K-E board and save about $100.Wow, great price on the Patriot Memory and yes at these prices why not go for the entire 8GB from the get go? I will probably go for Vista 64 in maybe a few months, so that's cool. Since I am not o'clocking the FSB by much if any this is a very nice area to save a few bucks in. I do have a question about memory tho, and again, I'm just trying to retain options for the future:1. How critical is memory type as far as ATI crossfire goes? I see they have a list of cerfified compatible modules, and interestingly, none of them are 2GB, just 2 x 1GB kits that they have certified. What do you think about this?

Essentially, how long will it be 'til Vcards outrun a Q9650? That, I don't know, other than to say eventually it will happen. If you are interested, here's my thinking: Here's the buss capacity list. Remember, busses don't "go" this fast. They only provide the capacity for traffic to flow that these data rates .. . . that is, if the user's device is capable of outputting these data rates. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_device_bandwidthsThe Intel boards are using one 16X slot and one 4X slot for crossfire. That tells me that even PCI-E 4X provides plenty of data transfer capacity. At one point, Asus was going to produce a board that used two 8X PCI-e busses to do crossfire. That didn't go because the (lay) hobbiest market would not accept a primary buss at PCI-E 8X. Manufactures will yield to technically inaccurate urban myths to sell products . . . because technically, it really doesn't matter. Even PCI-E 4X provides plenty of capacity. PCI-E 2 essentially provides bandwidth capacity of PCI-E 32X. When will this be necessary? At some point after we finally fully use PCI-E at 4X. See how far ahead this is? But How far? you ask. I dano. Xpect 't'll be a bit.I don't see any rumble about changing the PCI-E slot. I expect any PCI-E card will work in whatever PCI-E standard they transmute to. Other than increased data capacity, the only thing v2 brings is the ability to provide more 12v power through the slot. Right now, they are providing plugs on the cards to use PS connectors, but this is where they could get us. If they stopped putting plugs on the cards (in 2011) this could be their roadmap to intentionally obsolete PCI-E v1 slots. But also consider too, they would reduce their market by 75%. Additionally, by that time, those massive Vcards might make little difference with totally obsolete quad core. We really are going to 40 cores by 2011. Intel already has an 80 core in the lab. Technically, the 8800s are 128 core devices. Is an extra $100 worth the 'future proof for' PCI-E 2? I don't, but the retailers and I disagree all the time.Comparing relationship between FSB and PCI-E buss capacities to gauge performance compatibility is not helpful. For instance, no AGP Vcard ever got even close to needing AGP 8X. No PATA harddrive ever got close to needing ATA 133(Mb/s). Even today, the fastest SATA HD can only transfer at 100Mb/s. I've got 3 of these in raid 0 and am finally pushing SATA II's 375Mb/sec cap. But it took a mad scientist to do it! As long as the FSB stays around 400mhz, there will be no stability problems using Otto (Auto settings). Durability is a non-issue. Heat will hit built-in thermal protection limits or cause stability problems long anything gets into "accelerated wear" mode. Certification is nothing more than a product endorsement. It's a 007 driving a Plymoth (gotta get me one of those!) DDR2- is the standard. If DDR2 (of any size) will not run at its guaranteed speed in a DDR2 slot, it's time for an RMA. ATI Crossfire is a video provision. DDR2 is a main memory standard. There is no connection. Once again, marketing jabber. Consider though, DDR3 is going through some real growing pains. DDR3 compatibility needs to be considered. It means, "This works, that doesn't. It should, but we just can't f'gure out why it won't." Stay away from DDR3 for now. Yea, it's a jungle out there.

True: The X38s are now ape-ing the useless Nvidia 680 chipset's dual 16 lane (16X) PCI-E format. Manufactures are promoting an incorrect conclusion that - They Know - their lay customers will draw. First, they know the concept of a Buss is not understood. Then, they take advantage of this lack of knowledge to sell their vulnerable customer base the snake-oil premise that 16X will provide double the performance of 8X. Their plan is to knowingly mislead us . . . and I say shame on them. Buyer beware.Not that I've ever heard of: The P35s use a 16X/4X PCI-E format for their full legnth PCI-E slots. Asus talked about an 8X/8X scheme, but their customers were so mesmerized by the urban myth that 16X would provide twice the performance of 8X, they had to drop it. I've never heard of on-the-fly switching between 16X/4X and 8X/8X.

"The X38s are now ape-ing the useless Nvidia 680 chipset's dual 16 lane (16X) PCI-E format.""Then, they take advantage of this lack of knowledge to sell their vulnerable customer base the snake-oil premise that 16X will provide double the performance of 8X."This supposedly was the B.S. excuse we all got when everyone asked why the X975 chipset did not get Nvidia

Yea, I think a lot of the technical specifics we get are more from Madison Ave. I was in Best Buy today. All the Seagate, Western Digital, (et al) SATA hard drives boldly assert 3.0gb/s transfer rates. All of 'em are hoping that no one will recognize that's only what the SATA II buss can accommodate. The drives that can actually do that won't be here 'til Well into the next decade. . . . and so it goes with this new Vcard buss, PCI-E. From what I can gather, the SLI-less P35/X38 is because Nvidia wants a monopoly on SLI capable mobos. Heck, it's theirs. Who can blame them. However ATIs version of dual Vcard setup (crossfire) appears to be running fine on a 16X/4X PCI-E buss scheme. In this setup, one card is using a 16X buss and the other one is using a 4X buss. Does this mean one card is only providing 1/4 of the workload in crossfire? Not at all. A PCI-E 4X buss provides plenty of capacity to allow its card to operate at 100%. Might we conclude that a PCI-E 4X buss provides adequate capacity for Any modern Vcard? How could it be otherwise?