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for any suggestionsAndy
January 3, 200818 yr That's dissapointing.....I'm in line to upgrade from my 6800XT 256mbTheres gotta be a driver conflict, did you uninstall the old drivers before installing the new card+drivers? | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
January 3, 200818 yr As Ryan mentions, this smells much more like drivers or some other fouled item, rather than the card and its performance.I too updated from a 7900 to a 8800 GT, but my experience has been anything BUT negative. Getting all around better performance in FSX, as well as many of the other games I play.When you were swapping drivers, did you do a full wipe of the drivers on your system? If not, give it a shot - maybe even pick up a driver cleaner utility to purge it all - then reload the latest ones. You may also wish to backup then delete your fsx.cfg file to let it be rebuilt. The config file often sets up some values based on the card installed, and maybe it's causing a hitch as well. Hopefully you can get it working - and Ryan, do note that there are many more success stories than failures with the card. It's a pretty safe bet. :)Good luck!-Greg
January 3, 200818 yr There is no way you should have a performance decrease going from 7900 series card to 8800 series card. As stated above you have issues elsewhere. More than likely I would suspect an Nvidia driver conflict (remnants left over from a previously installed driver). Go to your control panel and remove your Nvidia display drivers, reboot into safe mode and use a driver cleaning utiltiy to completely remove all Nvidia display driver registry entries and remaining files, boot back into your OS and install the latest drivers.I happen to use Driver Cleaner.net which is a modest $10. There are also freeware solutions available.
January 4, 200818 yr Not to be too modest but I have installed and removed about 1000 ATI and NVIDIA drivers in my day and I usually remove using CP and reboot into safe mode then I use driver cleaner3 and driver sweeper and on top of that a full reg mechanic cleanup.I reboot again in XP and install new driver .....BTW I am running FS9 SP1 and yes I agree performance is great but the rendering time or the GPU RAM is not being utilized correctly.What drivers are u guys using BTW and all systems are different so what one might find great another could be sub par.I use ASV with unlimited levels of clouds and it looks great.Fly say at FL250 using PMDG and go into spot view and look down at the ground or slightly in the distance and tell me if your card is rendering the scenery instantly or is it playing catch up.ThanksAndy
January 4, 200818 yr Well I did some more research outside AVSIM and I ran RivaTuner and lowered my GPU Memory Clock to ~875 from 950 and I increased the GPU fan ~ 60% and whola all issues related to rendering are gone.Just did a quickie from KSEA-KPDX using the F1 ATR and the scenery at FL120 was spectacular and there was no rendering at all what I saw was already loaded by the time I switched views.I have read there are some faulty GPU RAM out there and I might be one of the unfortunate ones but by lowering the RAM clock cycle it helped a world of difference.Andy
January 4, 200818 yr There ya' go!I'm sure we all weren't looking down on you for the driver uninstall thing... it's just the most likely scenario that wasn't explicitly mentioned in your original post, thats all. Glad to see you're back on track. -Greg
January 4, 200818 yr have you read this: http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho...id=430970&page=It made all the difference in the world for me. Good luck.
January 5, 200818 yr Good to know, I'm getting an 8800 GT, and I've uninstalled all of my old nVidia drivers from my old GeForce4 MX 440, I hope it will work out well. Regards, BoeingGuy ASUS P5E X38 | Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3.2 GHz on 1600 MHz FSB (400x8) | 4 GB DDR2-800 RAM | EVGA GeForce 8800 GT Superclocked @ 679/979 | 320 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 RPM HD
January 6, 200818 yr >Well I did some more research outside AVSIM and I ran>RivaTuner and lowered my GPU Memory Clock to ~875 from 950 and>I increased the GPU fan ~ 60% and whola all issues related to>rendering are gone.Just did a quickie from KSEA-KPDX using the>F1 ATR and the scenery at FL120 was spectacular and there was>no rendering at all what I saw was already loaded by the time>I switched views.I have read there are some faulty GPU RAM out>there and I might be one of the unfortunate ones but by>lowering the RAM clock cycle it helped a world of difference.>>AndyWas your original set up standard? If so can you provide a link to the outside site that explains why this tuning is necessary? I have same card and an issue with shimmering and "popping of textures". FS9thanks,Mark. Mark CYYZ
January 6, 200818 yr >>Well I did some more research outside AVSIM and I ran>>RivaTuner and lowered my GPU Memory Clock to ~875 from 950>and>>I increased the GPU fan ~ 60% and whola all issues related>to>>rendering are gone.Just did a quickie from KSEA-KPDX using>the>>F1 ATR and the scenery at FL120 was spectacular and there>was>>no rendering at all what I saw was already loaded by the>time>>I switched views.I have read there are some faulty GPU RAM>out>>there and I might be one of the unfortunate ones but by>>lowering the RAM clock cycle it helped a world of>difference.>>>>Andy>>>Was your original set up standard? If so can you provide a>link to the outside site that explains why this tuning is>necessary? I have same card and an issue with shimmering and>"popping of textures". FS9>>>thanks,>>>Mark.Mark went to the forums in guru3d and herehttp://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=242288Andy
January 6, 200818 yr OK well after reading the Guru thread, I don't think this is my issue. My card is working fine.I have made the changes using Nhancer and yes it has helped a lot but still not perfect. I might try Clamp setting of -1 and see if that gets rid of the last bit of shimmers.Mark. Mark CYYZ
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