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Hey guys I have FSX and I can't up grade to a new system probly until FS11 comes out. I have FS9 and wonder what up grades to make my airports look pics that I have seen with all the other craft and parking and striping and things like that. I wonder why others airports look like FSX or better and all the differnt aircraft like AA, US Airways and all those come from. What about FS Scenery its good and active sky.I have a P4HT 3.2 Ghz, 1 MB DDR, NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX 256mb card, ZS2 SB audio. Powerfull comp but not for FSX.

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In no particular order:Ultimate Terrain, USA, Canada & Europe Ground EnvironmentActive Sky 6.5FSGenesis Terrain MeshFlight Environment (or Real Environment Pro if you want a freeware alternative)Any airport by FlyTampaAny airport / scenery by FlightzoneWorld of AI packages and installer (for real world airlines, schedules and aircraft)

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I think i confused myself,I thought Ultimate Terrain and Ground Enviroment were the same thing?What does Ultimate Terrain do?

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Ultimate Terrain changes all water (lakes streams rivers etc), coastlines, roads, railways, landclass and other things to match real world geography.Ground Environment changes the textures that are displayed in these locations.Combined with FSGenesis mesh, the end results are nothing short of breathtaking.Glenn

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For my money, Ground Environment and Flight Environment first. You'll see an immediate and huge improvement in eye candy at every level, every environment, and all times of day or night. GE will give you superb terrain detail and graphics at all altitudes and really spruce up the auto-gen, and FE will give you sky colours and clouds that will blow you out of your chair. Together they take FS9 to the next level.Download some of the FSGenesis freeware to get a taste of what FSGenesis mesh does. Try the Vancouver Island demo. Guaranteed you'll see the difference, and guaranteed you'll love it.Ultimate Terrain is nice, giving you nice coastlines, roads and towns, but I would not get it until you have the other products. Then it really shines. Kind of like putting a great looking frame on an already great looking painting.

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I like the real time weather do the weather add on's have that feature like the active sky. Will it do current conditions.

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Now where are the updated airports comming from. They look a lot like FSX airports, Lots of aircraft and ground markings things like that.

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As I mentioned, check out flytampa.There are also many great freeware airports in the Avsim library.Glenn

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Does this change performance in FS9, Slow down Frame rates. All are maxed out now and usally get 40-60 FPM.What about FScene is it as good or what do you think.

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I'm running GE Pro + FE + UT + Genesis mesh and if my FPS has gone down, it hasn't gone down much. Impact is far less on FPS than improvement is on graphics. My flights are smooth and silky, though I have noticed some custom planes impacting FPS a bit more than before, as well as full AI over big airports. But nothing that stops me from flying. Also, this is at 4xAA and 16xAA.We're talking (maybe)20%% less FPS for 1000% better eye candy. Fair trade.(AMD64-3000/2G RAM/7800GS)Your CPU/GPU won't give you detail like this for free, but if it drops your FPS from 40 to 30, do you really care? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/horsesass/best2.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/horsesass/best3.jpg

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I have a general question regarding these terrain upgrades and mesh -- how good is the coverage outside the US and EU?I mainly fly EU > Asia and Europe > US routes (with stop overs in the Middle East). So unless these bring some great detail there; they are not a real use to me.When I was in the US, I would have bought them because I can relate more to them; not so much now.Can you take some shots of other airports ... like say Dubai or Malaysia and the surrounding terrain?Love those screenshots :)

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Terrain mesh makes the mountains look 'real'Unless you mean the textures on them in which case it would be GE.UT only changes coastline, water, urban landclass, road and rail features. It does NOT alter any textures or topography.Glenn

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Glenn, Thanks for your help. Do you have FSX? Dose the terrain look better in FSX or FS9 with these addons. I live near a large lake and take off in FSX and like the way the hills roll, more like real, I was hoping these addons would be about the same.Scot

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Well, thats a tough call.It all depends. I do like the FSX 1m photo textures. They look a lot better than FS9, but with FS Genesis mesh, GE and UT, FS9 is pretty close AND you get great performance. I was very critical of FSX portrayal of landclass. However, the FSG landclass has transformed the sim for me. No more 'desert' textures. It makes a huge difference.If eyecandy is all you are really interested in, then I would say FSX (especially when UT and GE etc appear for it) has the edge, but you will need a good landclass product from FSGenesis or Cloud 9 Xclass. I think the FSG USA landclass product is very good. Cloud 9 also has landclass for Canada and Europe.For 'geographical correctness', FS9 with UT is tough to beat. However, you can use an import tool to transfer the UT files over to FSX. It's not perfect, but it is an improvement over FSX default. Scenery Solutions are working on an FSX only version of UT which should be out around spring time I would think. The FS9 to FSX port is a temporary solution that has been released in a beta state.Personally, I still spend far more time in FS9 than I do FSX. I use FSX mainly as an 'experimental' platform. Hopefully that will change with FSX SP1. If I really want to fly I load up FS9 with all the addons, Dreamfleet A36 and Jon Patch's Victoria+ scenery, all humming along at 30FPS. Fantastic..........

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Scooter,Are you 'new' to Flight Sim?If so, despite my current preference for FS9, I would stick with FSX. It's the only way forward I'm afraid. Like I said, hopefully SP1 will fix some of the major issues and then we can all move forward together again.Glenn

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Not really new, just maybe on upgrade, I have had everyone of them FS 98, 2K, 2K2, FS9 and now FSX. I have over 1110.3 hours. I use the EagleSoft Citation X, I'm on my way around the world. I was just unhappy with my FSX perfromance, I guess looking for a band aid until I can get a new system. I do thank for your help.

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