i don't know why did think of this aircraft when making my prior post - Stellans DC9 21/41http://www.hilmerby.com/fs/panelv50/50panel.html(site home page: http://www.hilmerby.com/)everything about this aircraft is pre-glass and FMS. very detailed system model. (the designer was a DC9 pilot for SAS so he knows the 'dog' (he has now moved to the SAS A340 fleet: http://www.hilmerby.com/background.html).)--

thnx :-)

I thought I'd summarise these for the benefit of anyone who looks in, so they can check them out. Thank you all once again for your contributions - it's been a great help! In no particular order:Level-D 767http://www.leveldsim.com Dash 8 Q300http://www.majesticsoftware.com/c/portal_p...yout?p_l_id=1.1Project Tupolev TU-154B-2www.protu-154.com (site can be viewed in English as well)PMDG 747-400.http://www.precisionmanuals.com/.Dreamfleet 727http://www.dreamfleet2000.comFlight1 ATR 720-500http://atr.flight1.netStellans DC9 21/41http://www.hilmerby.com/fs/panelv50/50panel.html(site home page: http://www.hilmerby.com/)MD80 (Maddog 2006) http://www.flythemaddog.com/RegardsJason

>>>Project Tupolev TU-154B-2>>>>>beware tough, this plane is not flyable at all without>>reading>>>the manual,>>>>Do you have to learn Russian to read the manual?>>>>:-))>>For me it doesn't surpass the 767... >And there's an english manual included. >well... let's agree to disagree then :)in the end it all boils down to personal preference anyway, I personally prefer the steam gauges and labor intensive systems of the TU-154 over the CRT screens with sophisticated automated systems of the 767.. but thats just me..

I totally agree, Milton Shupe and team put out an excellent product line, from the Aero Commander 500 to the 680, and the Dash7. But I saw a post on their site, that Milton is planning to retire.Part of the secret of success in life is to eat what you like -M.Twain

Hi all,if no one is going to do it - I shall !!If you're talking old jets - you mentioned the Trident - you've got to get yourself over to David Maltby's site.....early British jet heaven !! address : http://www.dmflightsim.co.uk/Fully functional Trident and BAC 111 with full VC, VC10 variants and Comet with excellent 2D cockpits. All the textures you could ever want plus great sound files as well - it does not get any better !!Oh, its all free, donate if you would like to (Thanks again David and team !!)EnjoyFred C

I don't understand why everybody is listing MadDog 2006. Have any of you actually used Flight1's Super80? It is VERY good, up there with my LevelD and Flight1 ATR.MadDog looks sub par so far.

Thanks

Well, may be I should have put it on the list. Thanks.

http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=sstsimhttp://www.aeroworx.com/index.html

>>>>Project Tupolev TU-154B-2>>>>>>>beware tough, this plane is not flyable at all without>>>reading>>>>the manual,>>>>>>Do you have to learn Russian to read the manual?>>>>>>:-))>>>>For me it doesn't surpass the 767... >>And there's an english manual included. >>>>well... let's agree to disagree then :)>in the end it all boils down to personal preference anyway, I>personally prefer the steam gauges and labor intensive systems>of the TU-154 over the CRT screens with sophisticated>automated systems of the 767.. but thats just me..lol... Don't get me wrong there. The PT 154-B2 is AN AMAZING addon !!! And I LOVE it !!I wasn't really talking personal taste here... I'm talking programming. And the Level-D 767 got this almost unique failure module... I mean you just have to save random failures in your initial situation and you'll actually have a real reason to press the recall switch after engine/before take etc. You simply can experience hundreds of failures going from losing TCAS or CRTs to engine fire... at anytime during your flight.

Well, I've just install that Tu-154 and I'm amazed. Freeware or Payware this is pretty cool stuff.I just selected the Tu-154 in FS9 for the first time and got this cold dark cockpit :-)I slewed the aircraft to the Apron. I think I can tinker with this for a day or two before I figure it all out. I almost feel like a James Bond about to steal a Soviet aircraft back in the cold war...trying to figure out all these Russian controls...

Well, I've just install that Tu-154 and I'm amazed. Freeware or Payware this is pretty cool stuff.I just selected the Tu-154 in FS9 for the first time and got this cold dark cockpit :-)I slewed the aircraft to the Apron. I think I can tinker with this for a day or two before I figure it all out. I almost feel like a James Bond about to steal a Soviet aircraft back in the cold war...trying to figure out all these Russian controls...

Couldn't agree with you more on the Super 80. Great package. I too have been confused with the MadDog talk. Unless the web site does it absolutely no justice it looks vey ennghh. Best part about it is the support of Flight 1. If it runs like a dog or you just can't stand it... return it. The folks there are outstanding. Scott

If you're looking for a good analog cockpit I Highly recommend the FLightOne Super80 is nearly fully functional and the visuals, sound and dynamics are spectacular!