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HiI used to be a fan of the Aerowinx PS1 simulator, and I never quite got used to being without it, as it modelled perhaps 80% of functionality of a 747-400.What 3rd Party aircraft for FS2004 today can match this, if any? Not just glass cockpits but also older analogue ones too.Jason

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If you like piston-powered twins, anything by Milton Shupe and his gang. Check out their AeroCommander series. Payware quality at a freeware price. They look great and fly great.There are others, but this one comes to mind right away.Adam

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Try the PMDG 747-400. There is an forum here on avsim and the website is http://www.precisionmanuals.com/.Also the Level-D 767 at http://www.leveldsim.com should fit your needs.When it comes to the older style ananlogue cockpits have a look for the Dreamfleet 727 at http://www.dreamfleet2000.comAnd not to forget the Flight1 ATR 720-500 at http://atr.flight1.netAll of them are the most simulated birds for FS2004.Hope this helpsRon

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>Try the PMDG 747-400. There is an forum here on avsim and the>website is http://www.precisionmanuals.com/.>Also the Level-D 767 at http://www.leveldsim.com should fit>your needs.>When it comes to the older style ananlogue cockpits have a>look for the Dreamfleet 727 at http://www.dreamfleet2000.com>And not to forget the Flight1 ATR 720-500 at>http://atr.flight1.net>>All of them are the most simulated birds for FS2004.>>Hope this helps>>RonYessir, I have all 4 and you can't go wrong with any of them.They are great birds.

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>Try the PMDG 747-400. There is an forum here on avsim and the>website is http://www.precisionmanuals.com/.>Also the Level-D 767 at http://www.leveldsim.com should fit>your needs.>When it comes to the older style ananlogue cockpits have a>look for the Dreamfleet 727 at http://www.dreamfleet2000.com>And not to forget the Flight1 ATR 720-500 at>http://atr.flight1.net>>All of them are the most simulated birds for FS2004.>>Hope this helps>>RonThanks. The Level-D looks very good, I must say. I already have the Dreamfleet 727. It's a good package, and I would say the systems in it are about 40% functional. The main thing that's missing from it is an old style INS system.The Flight1 team seem to have some decent stuff. I think their MD80 is worth a shot. Don't know anything about their ATR.But thanks once again.Jason

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>you like piston-powered twins,>anything by Milton Shupe and his gangThanks for the tip. I'll check it out. There's a few nice DC-3s out there, including the RD4, which is still going good after all this time. I would love to see something like Bristol 175 Britannia or an early HS Trident. These aircraft represent the peak of analogue equipment development.Actually, FSDZigns Constellation shows promise, since it seems to have a dedicated team behind it. It has an Engineers panel with a nice fuel control panel.Jason

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Project Tupolev TU-154B-2www.protu-154.com (site can be viewed in English as well)surpasses every payware aircraft I know (and that does include the PMDG 747, 737, LDS 767 and DF 727) for freeware prices.. beware tough, this plane is not flyable at all without reading the manual, a few training flights are definetly necessary before taking a full flight as well.the other planes on their site are definetly good value as well..in particular the IL-62M

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>Project Tupolev TU-154B-2>beware tough, this plane is not flyable at all without reading>the manual,Do you have to learn Russian to read the manual?:-))

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no, fortunately you don't, there's an excellent English manual included :) oh, I forgot to add..one thing you perhaps want to know about the project Tupolev TU-154, is that it's , if I'm not mistaken, recognized by PSC Tupolev as an official TU-154 training tool :)

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>> The main thing that's missing from it is an old style INS system.>Get it here:http://www.simufly.com/ins/There is an 727 panel.cfg available for this INS on the website of DF727 (I think), otherwise here in the AVSIM library.

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>>Project Tupolev TU-154B-2>>>beware tough, this plane is not flyable at all without>reading>>the manual,>>Do you have to learn Russian to read the manual?>>:-))For me it doesn't surpass the 767... And there's an english manual included.

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i don't know why did think of this aircraft when making my prior post - Stellans DC9 21/41http://www.hilmerby.com/fs/panelv50/50panel.html(site home page: http://www.hilmerby.com/)everything about this aircraft is pre-glass and FMS. very detailed system model. (the designer was a DC9 pilot for SAS so he knows the 'dog' (he has now moved to the SAS A340 fleet: http://www.hilmerby.com/background.html).)--

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I thought I'd summarise these for the benefit of anyone who looks in, so they can check them out. Thank you all once again for your contributions - it's been a great help! In no particular order:Level-D 767http://www.leveldsim.com Dash 8 Q300http://www.majesticsoftware.com/c/portal_p...yout?p_l_id=1.1Project Tupolev TU-154B-2www.protu-154.com (site can be viewed in English as well)PMDG 747-400.http://www.precisionmanuals.com/.Dreamfleet 727http://www.dreamfleet2000.comFlight1 ATR 720-500http://atr.flight1.netStellans DC9 21/41http://www.hilmerby.com/fs/panelv50/50panel.html(site home page: http://www.hilmerby.com/)MD80 (Maddog 2006) http://www.flythemaddog.com/RegardsJason

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>>>Project Tupolev TU-154B-2>>>>>beware tough, this plane is not flyable at all without>>reading>>>the manual,>>>>Do you have to learn Russian to read the manual?>>>>:-))>>For me it doesn't surpass the 767... >And there's an english manual included. >well... let's agree to disagree then :)in the end it all boils down to personal preference anyway, I personally prefer the steam gauges and labor intensive systems of the TU-154 over the CRT screens with sophisticated automated systems of the 767.. but thats just me..

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I totally agree, Milton Shupe and team put out an excellent product line, from the Aero Commander 500 to the 680, and the Dash7. But I saw a post on their site, that Milton is planning to retire.Part of the secret of success in life is to eat what you like -M.Twain

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Hi all,if no one is going to do it - I shall !!If you're talking old jets - you mentioned the Trident - you've got to get yourself over to David Maltby's site.....early British jet heaven !! address : http://www.dmflightsim.co.uk/Fully functional Trident and BAC 111 with full VC, VC10 variants and Comet with excellent 2D cockpits. All the textures you could ever want plus great sound files as well - it does not get any better !!Oh, its all free, donate if you would like to (Thanks again David and team !!)EnjoyFred C

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I don't understand why everybody is listing MadDog 2006. Have any of you actually used Flight1's Super80? It is VERY good, up there with my LevelD and Flight1 ATR.MadDog looks sub par so far.

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