January 23, 200719 yr I have the aeroworx b200 and am looking into another ga plane that is as good or better, is the Cheyenne up to par?How are the systems, are there consequences for bad piloting, such as hot starts or engine outs, flap/gear failure? Are all the systems fully simulated and buttons pushable? How is the exterior detail, is prop feather animation simulated as in the b200? Are engine sounds and thrust linked to prop rpm and not throttle position? Are all of the vc buttons pushable? How are the gauge refresh rates in the vc compared to the b200, because in the b200 they are very smooth. And lastly are the vc gauges more appealing than in the pictures, they dont have a sharp real look to them from the pic's i have seen.http://www.digital-aviation.de/crjsite/l_m...pa31_vcp_01.jpgThis picture makes the gauges look computerized and fake, especially the airspeed and itt gauges.
January 23, 200719 yr I would put it up there with the Aeroworx B200, superior in VC department. It does not simulate a hot start situation and does not have specific damage modeling programmed in like the Aeroworx aircraft has. I did review it for AVSIM and have to say of all the aircraft that someone could do a simulator version of the PA31 series of Piper aircraft are the ones I personally would be the most picky about... I grew up flying in them. This one earned a Gold Star in my opinion. It is on my list of must haves (which is not that long BTW) if you are a serious simmer.Zane GardSr. Staff Reviewer AVSIM Dr Zane Gard Sr Staff Reviewer AVSIM Private Pilot ASEL since 1986 IFR 2010 AOPA 00915027 American Mensa 100314888
January 23, 200719 yr Hmm, Im really on the fence with this one, I thought I read someplace that damages were simulated, just not with a maint. module like aeroworx has. For me to buy this I need some reasons why I will enjoy it more than my b200. Consequences for improper handling and systems accuracy are very important to me, whats the point of following correct procedures if the "easy way" works just the same.
January 23, 200719 yr If you already have the B200, I'd probably wait on this one until they fix the GPS...the Trimble 2000 included in the panel is a real mess, and the promised fixes haven't materialized over some months.RegardsBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VSantiago de Chile Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
January 23, 200719 yr That's true about the Cheyenne GPS, but I hardly ever use the GPS so it's a non-issue for me. The Cheyenne also, for me, had a bit too much spool time on the engines, but I just came across another recent thread here and with a very small change in the cfg file it now throttles very nicely. It's not as developed as the B200, but it does grow on me. Mike
January 23, 200719 yr Alright, I think im going to wait and save my money. I wish aeroworx would fix their engine sound though, the engine sound being tied to the torque is annoying. Also I thought they had released a patch for the Cheyenne fixing the gps but I guess not.
January 23, 200719 yr Commercial Member Mike,Do you mind sharing the thread about the throttle adjustment, it would be greatly appreciated.ThanksKroswynd KROSWYND a.k.a KILO_WHISKEYMajestic Software Development/Support Sys 1: AMD 7950X3D, NOCTUA D15S, Gigabyte Elite B650, MSI 4090, 64Gb Ram, Corsair 850 Power Supply, 2x2TB M.2 Samsung 980s, 1x4TB WDD M.2, 6xNoctua 120mm case fans, LG C2 55" OLED running at 120Hz for the monitor, Win11. Sys 2: i7 8700k, MSI GAMING MBoard, 32Gigs RAM, MSI 4070Ti & EVGA 1080Ti. Hardware: Brunner CLS-E-NG Yoke, Fulcrum One yoke, TM TPR Rudder Pedals, Yoko TQ6+ NEO, StreamDeck, Tobii Eye Tracker, Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base with a TM gripSIMULATORS: MSFS2020/XP12/P3D v5.4 & v6: YouTube Videos
January 24, 200719 yr >If you already have the B200, I'd probably wait on this one>until they fix the GPS...the Trimble 2000 included in the>panel is a real mess, and the promised fixes haven't>materialized over some months.>>Regards>>Bob Scott>ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V>Santiago de Chile>I only know of the CTD when entering the Calc pages. Are there other problems? I haven't tried to really learn the GPS because the flaw in the Calc page really bugged me. I wish DA would fix the problems. They've said they're waiting to fix the FSX version to release the FS9 patch, but I don't understand that at all. I bought the FS9 version, and don't even care about FSX, let alone own it. - Chris Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX | Intel Core i9 13900KF | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB | 64GB DDR5 SDRAM | Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling | 1TB & 2TB Samsung Gen 4 SSD | 1000 Watt Gold PSU | Windows 11 Pro | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Thrustmaster TCA Captain X Airbus | Asus ROG 38" 4k IPS Monitor (PG38UQ) Asus Maximus VII Hero motherboard | Intel i7 4790k CPU | MSI GTX 970 4 GB video card | Corsair DDR3 2133 32GB SDRAM | Corsair H50 water cooler | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD (2) | EVGA 1000 watt PSU - Retired
January 24, 200719 yr I have both and much prefer the Kingair, in part because the community over at their forums is friendlier than the one at Digital Aviation. Hans Hartmann and his team have the tendency to get defensive quickly when people raise legitimate issues such as the ones raised in the thread here, in addition to the others: fuzzy bitmaps and "jumping condition levers".ricardo
January 24, 200719 yr http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=sho..._id=8422&page=2 Location: Vleuten, The Netherlands, 17.3dme SPL 108.40 | Simulator: FS2024 System: AMD 7800X3D - Gigabyte X670 - RTX 4090 - 64GB DDR5 - 2 x 2TB SSD - 32" 1440p Display - Windows 11 Pro
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