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Bloom Plugin!!!

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So, I was perusing the IL-2 Sturmovik forums and I came upon this bloom/etc plugin (i don't think it's actually HDR) people are using with various games, developed by some Russian programmer. http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=3121&page=2From there I navigated to a linked Lock On thread, where someone posted the directx 9 version of the plugin.http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=29752&page=14pluginhttp://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?atta...18&d=1208563162Long story short, it works in FS2004 AND FSX!!!before, fs2004http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3557/beforedm5.jpgafter, fs2004http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/716/afterus2.jpgbefore, fsxhttp://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6333/before2ms1.jpgafter, fsxhttp://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6267/after2uz8.jpgThe best part is, negligible performance hit with a recent card with just bloom on. Also it's a fully customizable effect. The default bloom is too much during the day and general brightness too dark at night-and I like a slightly brighter day-so here are some of my settings which differ from the download:parentheses are heading brackets (BLOOM)BloomPowerDay=7BloomConstantNight=2(COLORCORRECTION)DarkeningAmountDay=-5DarkeningAmountNight=0

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The instructions are in the readme. You just copy the contents into the root folder of either fs9 or fsx (does not overwrite anything). Then when playing, you press shift-f12 to turn it off and on.The settings are in an ini file.Very simple and noninvasive.I have no idea whether it works in fsx directx 10 mode, however.

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No sir.Appears to be quite stable. But I did more rigorous testing in fs9, moduled out, than FSX, less altered.

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Hello,Looks nice! But eats 10 of 25 Frames in FS2004 with default settings in the ini file.I will try a little moreRegardsUli

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I'M SORRYIn enbseries.ini under EFFECT turn off everything except EnableBloomSo make last five =0EnableBloom=1EnableOcclusion=1EnableReflection=1EnableMotionBlur=1EnableWater=1EnableShadow=1

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It's an awesome effect, but I think the guy needs to go back to his drawing board concerning flight simulation (maybe it works perfectly for San Andreas). For FS9 it surely is a no option:http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/187868.jpgIf unreadable, it reads 7.3fps.(This scene renders 40fps locked, around 60-80fps unlocked).

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Hm, must reply to my own post: seems like a bug. Sometimes its there, sometimes not. A few seconds later I get 30fps and up again...

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ARRRGGGHHHH! ok now thats out of my system. The good news and the bad news. For 90% of you this is one of the best visual addons I have tried in ages. Zero performance hit on a core2duo and ATI HD3870 512mb.I set the aircraft up at Aerosoft Heathrow 27R with thunderstorms at night and with a few tweaks the sim looked amazing, almost cinematic.I started thinking this is too good to be true and it is for the remaining 10%. I decided to set up a proper flight to check out any bugs, my sim runs over 3 monitors with TrackIR. As soon as I undocked the FMC EICAS etc to the other screens FS9 froze up on me :(I tried disabling and tweaking a few things in my card settings and nothing works :( So if you have multi monitors don't download this program, you'll just end up getting depressed. FS9 aint gonna look the same to me anymore.Rob

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If you want a more subtle effect see some of the ini suggestions posted by meatwater and myself in the fsx forum.such asBloomPowerDay=5instead of 7DarkeningAmountDay=5instead of -5BloomAllowOversaturation=0instead of 1, but increase bloom power and and constant day to 10, and 2.

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Extensive testing shows that the effect is to be used with caution: certainly not for normal operations. Beside other testes, I commanded a take-off from FlyTampa Vienna in a PMDG 747 2D cockpit in default Building Storms. Without Bloom, maintaining between 30 and 40 (locked at 40). With Bloom on, dropping mostly below 20fps. 30-50% performance loss, don't think so.Also a note, GPU memory usage without the .dll, usually up to 200mb (on a 512mb card). With the .dll in the folder, usually around 95% already on load - can't really explain it, but there were no memory errors.Conclusion: Certainly a great effect for some screenshots, for occasional use. But not something I would permanently use.

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>If you want a more subtle effect see some of the ini>suggestions posted by meatwater and myself in the fsx forum.>>such as>>BloomPowerDay=5>instead of 7>DarkeningAmountDay=5>instead of -5>>BloomAllowOversaturation=0>instead of 1, but increase bloom power and and constant day to>10, and 2. im a little confused..do you mean IF i change "BloomAllowOversaturation"to "0" THEN i should change "BloomPowerDay" to "10" ?..or which BloomPower do you mean instead of the one you said to change to "5"?ps: no framehits here..its the same with mod activated as without.

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>im a little confused..do you mean IF i change "BloomAllowOversaturation"to "0" THEN i should change "BloomPowerDay" to "10" ?Yes, that's what I mean. Sorry for not being clear.To Srdjan,As far as performance, I would guess that problems would arise because of the following: a lot of people make good use of graphics cards way more powerful than what is needed for fs2004 by increasing antialiasing to obscene levels. So if you're using nhancer, turn down aa to 4xs from 8xs (the level stated in your signature) for instance. That way you still get good reduction of shimmering, but save resources which supersampling especially sucks up. It's a trade off, yet I prefer the image quality enhancement of bloom to even more supersampling. Also the bloom does help with the shimmering slightly.Likewise, using super transparency antialiasing with general supersampling already on is pretty overkill. Unless you absolutely can't stand any shimmering at all I don't recommend it. Current 3d games tend to use a lot of vram and high levels around 90% are not uncommon. That's why vram specs keep increasing.THIS IS BY NO MEANS A FREE EFFECT, but I suspect many of us can afford to have it on with an almost negligible performance hit because fs2004 is primarily cpu bound. Provided we keep antialiasing at a reasonable level. Try using even 4xs with a really graphically intensive game and you'll see that we actually have been living in small luxury. To sum things up, I recommend first trying this plugin with NO MORE than 4xs combined antialiasing, with multisampling transparency antialiasing.

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Sorry, but I am not ready to compromise the 8xS in nHancer, since I bought the card for that exact reason. My old X1950XT had so many jagged up lines on the aircraft, and also runway textures on some airports I fly frequently, those only disappear with 8xS setting. Besides, I just tried for the sake of the test the 4xS, it's not like it's worlds better - instead of drops below 20s, I get drops up to 20s... In ANY case of using the bloom effect, the FPS drop. People might be using normal Multisampling (which yields usually higher FPS), but lemme just show you what I mean:Quality of X1950XT (and also other cards without SS), with AA 8x, AF 16x:http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/187895.jpg4xS without TranspSS:http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/187896.jpg8xS with TranspSS:http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/187897.jpgNow, 2nd and 3rd shot maybe don't represent such a huge difference, but also they don't represent high FPS difference, as with bloom plugin also. There is only a high shimmering decrease between last two, which I can't represent here. The FPS difference between 1st and the 2nd two, is of course bigger. But so is the picture quality...I've seen over course of last months, people still have 8800 series cards, and still not using it to it's full potential. Thus for them, this bloom will probably look good and they won't see any difference FPS-wise. Me however, am using my system to it's absolute full potential, my CPU is usually at 100%, and my GPU is pulling its horsepowers.And let me comment on one thing more: people saying that it looks like a placebo effect, making only everything brighter - I must admit I give them right. A real bloom effect wouldn't make panels brighter, I think that is also the way it works in FSX. Also a very weird side-effect, it makes VC panels darker when flying at dusk/dawn - looking very weird. Also on my LDS, when I turn on panel lighting at dusk, with bloom on, it's completely dark, not even lighted up.To sum it up, too many problems to deal with, thus it's going out of my sim.

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>FSX dlready have bloom. For what use this hacked dll ? It's>wrong wayThis is very true - but then you should consider that this is the FS2004(FS9) Forum page... and FS9 does not have bloom without a modification such as this dll...Geoff

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Thank you for this find! I am stunned at the transformation of FS9 by this small hack. I would say that this is one of the single most important additions to FS9. You should see what this thing does to a combination of Ultimate Terrain, Flight Environment Pro and Ground Environment. FS9 looks totally cinematic during all times and night is finally black and foreboding (the way it SHOULD be). All I can say is WOW! BTW, I am seeing absolutely no frame rate hit with the 'hq' profile.This needs to be pinned. If you have a high end rig, GET THIS NOW!!!!Wow!!!!

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With the low quality setting, it seems to work pretty good on my modest setup.Night flying certainly looks and feels different, kinda like FS10 but without the sense of dread.More testing and tweaking needed but certainly an interesting find, thanks.Maybe this talented develper can tailor a version for FS9 (optimize if possible)--I'd be willing to pay, just like other nice payware....PatAMD Opteron DC 185 @ 3GHz, Zalman7700Cu cooler, Corsair XMS 2GB DDR, 7800GS-OC, Asus A8V MoBo, RaptorHDD, TrackIR4, CH FSYoke+TQ+peds, Eclipse RED KB, WinXP-sp2

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Fun little add-on. In the FSX forum NickN stated that this doesn't do anything that adjusting contrast/brightness and gamma in the video drivers won't do, and I tend to agree with him. Even in FS9. After playing with the .ini settings and the video drivers for a while I could do pretty much anything the plug-in could do simply by tweaking in ATI Tray Tools. Additionally, there are any number of add-on (both freeware and payware) environment packages for FS9 that offer different blooms.For those seeing a performance hit try resetting "ReflectionQuality" in the .ini from "0" to "1" or "2". "0" is best quality and greatest performance hit while "2" gives the lowest quality and least performance hit.Congrats to those who find this useful. It just doesn't offer me much that I can't do by choosing my prefered enviro set-ups and tweaking the video drivers.

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>This is very true - but then you should consider that this is the >FS2004(FS9) Forum page... and FS9 does not have bloom without a >modification such as this dll...I know, but I mind>AND FSXand screens.

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Personally I don't believe that at all. However, if you can get the same graphical effects as this does just by adjusting gamma, contrast and brightness, then please share with the rest of us so we can do it too. That would be one less .dll file I'd have to worry about and I know that we all would be quite appreciative of your help.It would be interesting if you and NickN can show what you claim, since the dll and ini files changes the horizon brighness, water reflectivity property, add's light bloom effects, changes and greatly enahnces cloud shadowing and greatly enahances distant vs near scenery shading. The difference between the default 'flat' lighting in FS9 and this is huge.If you can do that with just your video card drivers and the buttons on your monitor, all I have to say is WOW!!! Please share!!!

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If you can do that with just your video card drivers and the buttons on your monitor...If it was that easy we'd all be in nirvana. :-) It's more a matter of finding the combo of video driver settings and environment packages that works for each user. There is no simple solution due to the different visual perception we each have. What looks nice for one may be garish for another. Once I had tweaked the enbseries addon to get the effects that looked good to me I quickly realized that those visuals weren't far off from what I have with my chosen environment textures and video driver tweaking.FS9 is graced with alot of different add-on environment packages. These packages offer a wide variety of effects, including different bloom effects. The choices of environment packages coupled with the popular video driver tweakers yield a huge number of options in how each of us configure the visuals in the sim. For me that enviro/video setting combo makes the enbseries tweaks redundant.Regards,

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