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When I activate PMDG-747 X FS2Crew TO/GA switches (SCrew near A/T) is not operating.If I don't activate FS2Crew TO/GA is operating.What is causing this problem and how can I correct it.ThanksSanal

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Hello Sanal,Please check your FS2Crew keyboard assignments; they should match what's in the FS2Crew manual.In addition, your autopilot may not be configured properly so that TOGA would not engage regardless. The test is to also try pressing TOGA in the Virtual Cockpit as the VC does not include FS2Crew gauges on the autopilot panel.Cheers,Bryan

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Bryan,During last two weeks, I went through all options to activate TO/GA button.I don't know how many times I uninstalted/reinstalled PGDG-747 and FS2Crew to correct the situation. I also several times reinstalled new F2C Start center with default Fs2C buttons and updates.Here is my findings:(2D/VC)TO/GA button not operating when I start the full Fs2C FP "SKIP PRE DEP EVTS" ONIf start the FP with "SKIP PRE DEP EVTS" OFF, with BTX/BTO and T/AT, TO/GA switch (Screw) is working.All fs2C buttons are same ON my CH Yoke red/green on 3 AND 4. Thnaks Sanal

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Hello Sanal,Thank you for the report. However, from a code perspective, there is no connection between the pre-departure events and the buttons mentioned, so it's hard for me to explain that behavior.However, the best way to test the TOGA around button is to manually (with your fingers) make the keypress on your keyboard (the keypress being the one allocated for the TOGA event in the PMDG Key assignments menu).What FS2Crew does is literally make the exact same keypress you would make to trigger certain commands.Cheers,Bryan

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Bryan,PMDG-747X TO/GA key is CTrl+Tab+I. Last night I flew from Mexico City to Kennedy Int'l. During the take-off either key CTrl+Tab+I and TO/GA button did not work. (Pre-departure events was ON).At KJFK approach I have to make GO-Around. Instantly I pushed TO/GA button and amazing it did work.when Pre-departure events activated some way FS2C is blocking CTrl+Tab+I key and TO/GA button is not functioning. If this is correct what caused TO/GA button function last night during Go-Around. I am totally confused. Is it possible when I recently download FS2Crew from PMDG, some thing went wrong .May be a BUG..RegardsSanal

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Hello,make sure you have FD ON, ATHR ON, and the FMC is set and fully configured for take off : PERF page, Thrust Lim page, and Flaps Setting

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Hi Sanal,What happens if, under the same circumstances, you try to press the TOGA screw in the VC cockpit?Cheers,Bryan

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Bryan,After completion Pre-Departure event and all other required FS2C functions,I tried several times pressing TOGA screw and also Ctrl+Tab+I button in the VC, noting happened.These two key/Screw only functions if I don't use "Pre-departure events " mode.It looks like I will end-up with Fs2C half of the functions.If this happening only to me. I suggest don't waste munch time to fix it.RegardsSanal

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Hi Sanal,If you click the 'screw' in the VC, and nothing happens, it suggests that the aircraft/fmc is not set-up properly for TOGA to engage. Or you've got some other issue somewhere.This is because in the VC there is no FS2Crew gauge that sits over top of the TOGA screw. So when you press TOGA in the VC, there is no FS2Crew 'middleman' that could run interference.I might suggest asking the PMDG aircraft forum what exact conditions need to be met for TO thrust to engage when you click the screw.All the best,Bryan

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Bryan,Finlay I solved the problem..FS2C and PMDG-747 were working perfect.I was keep doing the same mistake over and over last two weeks. SEL temperature was missing and FMC was not calculating correctly the take of performance.Now TO/GA is working.St

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Hello Sanal,The SEL temperature is not mandatory in the FMC. If you don't enter anything for the SEL temperature, it means that you'll perform a full thrust take off. When you enter a SEL temperature, you'll perform a take off with the ATM (Assumed Temperature Method).So even if you don't enter anything for SEL, it should work with FS2Crew.Anyway, the positive part is that you have succeeded to resolve your problem.

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>When I activate PMDG-747 X FS2Crew TO/GA switches (SCrew>near A/T) is not operating.>If I don't activate FS2Crew TO/GA is operating.>>What is causing this problem and how can I correct it.>Thanks>Sanal I recently purchased FS2Crew for my PMDG 747-400X and I have to say I LOVE IT. I also seemed to be experiencing this exact same "problem" as this individual. I read this thread which was the only of its kind and I eventually figured out the problem...the solution to this isn't quite what is specified in this thread although it did and will work.The problem with the TO/GA switch or screw not working is actually just something missed in the FS2Crew flow. if you program your FMC fully you probably set your take off power to full...When you did the departure brief (DB) you probably didn't change the takeoff power setting which defaults to reduced to full.. So your TO/GA doesnt work because the fmc and fs2crew are not doing the same thing....to fix the problem simply change the take off power setting during the departure brief to full or reduced...whatever your FMC is set to then do the brief...now all is right with the world and when you hit that little screw on the MCP those engines light up and you are rocking!just wanted to post this in case anyone else experienced this like me.Guthrie

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Hello Guthrie,Glad to hear you 'love' FS2Crew :-)That makes my day.However as for your solution, I'm not so sure because FS2Crew doesn't 'talk' to the autopilot or FMC or MCP. There is no line of communication.I still suspect that if you press the screw and toga doesn't engage, either the FMC isn't setup properly or there is some other weird thing going on in the 747 - a condition that's not being met.Cheers,Bryan

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Hello every 747 lovers ! I just bought the 747-400X by PMDG and the FS2Crew 747-400X edition. I was already a client of the FS2004 version. I'm experiencing exactly the same issue as described here. yesterday, no TO/GO on take-off while "Skip departure events" was set to NO. Then, I started FS again, put "Yes" to go a little faster and the TO/GA was working. Today I was preparing a flight from Buenos Aires to Frankfurt with "Skip departure events" set to NO. At take-off, 70% of N1, I tried to click on the hidden click spot by PMDG to activate the TO/GA and...nothing. I didn't abort take-off (shame on me) but I can give you some elements about my FMS preparation, more specifically the take-off configuration. I was planning a reduced thrust take off, assumed temperature 30

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Hello Nicolas,Hmmm, that's odd.Please try to reproduce with Skip events set to 'yes'.But, to test, if you click the screw and nothing happens in the 2D cockpit, switch to the VC cockpit and try manually clicking the screw there. If you can't engage TOGA while in the VC, it means the autopilot/FMC is not setup to accept a TOGA engagement.Also, double check your keyboard assignments and make sure nothing is intercepting the keypress FS2Crew sends when you press the screw to engage TOGA.Cheers,Bryan

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Hi,I've made a 2h flight yesterday, and nothing to report, Throttle at 70%, push TO/GA screw, and there it is, the lovely sound of the GE engines increasing (I really love this sound).I don't know if it is related to this, but maybe you should arm A/T well before in the cockpit preparation, and not just before lining up.I think you should turn A/T on when you switch FD ON, when you set V2, heading, altitude and when you arm LNAV, VNAV, during the cockpit preparation phase, before calling the check list.

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Well actually it's very strange since I've been using the PMDG for years and years without any issue on the TO/GA hidden button, even on the 737 PMDG. And it works perfectly when "skip departure events" is set to "yes". I'm not at all good at computing stuff but there is surely a link between TO/GA and "skip departure events : NO" even if it's really odd. I'll check FS2Crew key assignment also. Concerning the AT button, I always arm it while lining up. I've heard that this is what carriers do to prevent any unvoluntary power up. And it has always been working perfectly before so...Quite strange !

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Nop, not yet. I'm still trying to find out by myself but any comment is overwelcome ! I have planned different tests to do for the next few days. Nicolas

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IT JUST DOESNT WORK.After several weeks, i just tried EVERYTHING, I mean EVERYTHING, i red all the post in this forum message....... nothing works, used several, several flight plans, downloaded all the stuffs updates....FINALLY... i uninstalled the FS2CREW and the TOGA button worked again.It was nothing about the load, the OAT, the speeds, etc, etc, etc, etc.....the only solution was: un install the productIts sad for me to see that after buying this product it doesnt works.Dr. Ayax SobrinoMD Cardiologist PhD

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Dr. Sobrino,Please send me an email:admin@fs2crew.comI'll give you one-on-one support.We'll get it worked out for you.All the best,Bryan

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I sent you a file with some pics...Thanks Bryan for the quick response, the online support for the costumers is great.Dr. Ayax

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