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I was runningg the original FSX but wanted the SDK. I am running Vista Home 32 bit, with FSX Gold Edition installed on F:. I installed SDK, ran ConfigSDK, and yet I can not get the Tools Menu to display. Are there other things I need to Install? If you had this problem and have your FSX on F: and got things working please E-mail me as to what to do to do to get it to work at rhill1@ma.rr.com. Any sampels of CFG or XML would be apprerciated.Richard :(

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I was runningg the original FSX but wanted the SDK. I am running Vista Home 32 bit, with FSX Gold Edition installed on F:. I installed SDK, ran ConfigSDK, and yet I can not get the Tools Menu to display. Are there other things I need to Install? If you had this problem and have your FSX on F: and got things working please E-mail me as to what to do to do to get it to work at rhill1@ma.rr.com. Any sampels of CFG or XML would be apprerciated.Richard :(
I did a search of this forum using "tools menu" as the keywords and came up with this possible solution: http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtop...p;hl=Tools+Menu.Hope this helps.Jim

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I was runningg the original FSX but wanted the SDK. I am running Vista Home 32 bit, with FSX Gold Edition installed on F:. I installed SDK, ran ConfigSDK, and yet I can not get the Tools Menu to display. Are there other things I need to Install? If you had this problem and have your FSX on F: and got things working please E-mail me as to what to do to do to get it to work at rhill1@ma.rr.com. Any sampels of CFG or XML would be apprerciated.Richard :(
Hello, FSX SDK Installation Guide - follow the directions closely pertaining to matching the SDK version with FSX, and the section on editing the dll.xml file.

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Hello, FSX SDK Installation Guide - follow the directions closely pertaining to matching the SDK version with FSX, and the section on editing the dll.xml file.
I read the installation guide, but the way it reads is confusing to me.With FSX Gold Edition ( The Newest Version of FSX) wouldn't everything automatically install? I get the following messages with either install attempt. Do I have to uninstall everything AGAIN and if YES what are the steps to get everything working correctly? Why can't they make the install simple? I know I am old but I am mot senile yet. PLEASE HELP ME.SDK1A Install Message You must have the Flight Simulator X SDK SP1A or SDK SP2 installed before you cane install Microsoft Flight SimulatorAccelleration SDKSDK SP2 Install Message You must have the Flight Simulator X SDK SP1A installed before you cane install Microsoft Flight Simulator X SP2 SDK

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Hi Richard and everyone."With FSX Gold Edition ( The Newest Version of FSX) wouldn't everything automatically install?"No.You have to prompt the Install to get the SDK. You also have to get FSX installed, Activate it, Get Acceleration which should install SP1 and 2, and Acceleration, Activate it, install SDK. If you install FSX anywhere else other than default, you will have to also run the fix for SDK to get it to work. I know, a bunch of amateurs have lied their way into those jobs. It's the trend, let someone else do my job, I just lie and get the bonuses. TV

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Hi FolksRichard -I don't have the "Gold Edition" package,but will update the Wiki to include any "Gold" specific info,once I've checked my mate's Acceleration disk.Meantime, AIUI -Gold includes two discs -1) FSX Deluxe RTM disc.2) FSX Acceleration disc.Install FSX, then Acceleration.To install the SDKyou do not need to uninstall Acceleration or FSX.You do however have to install the old SDK,before you can upgrade it to the Acceleration/SP2 SDK.The Acceleration disc includes both of the required SDKs -In the disc root you'll find -1) a folder called SDK, containing -2) sdk.msi - Microsoft Flight Simulator X: Acceleration SDK, 6th October 2007, (for info, right-click then view properties).3) a child sub-folder, also called SDK, containing -4) sdk.msi - Not sure which version, unknown, (for info, right-click then view properties).Install 4),then install 2), (it'll automatically uninstall 4) :( Now run ConfigSDK.exe from wherever you've installed the SDK to.That'll update the registry settings, (only).Finally, manually edit your dll.xml.For any non-standard installation,the path must a full path.e.g.

<Path>Z:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Special Effects SDK\visualfxtool.dll</Path>

HTHATBPaul

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There aree three Disk two for FSX and one for Excelleration. How many DLL.XML files should there be?I have one in the SDK\Treffic Toolbox SDKI have one in the SDK\Enviorment Kit\Special Effects SDKI have one in the SDK\Mission Creation Kit Shouldthere be one somewhere else?I just do not understand why something has to be so didicult to get working. I am not a total idiot, and have been arround computers back Commodore days. I have been trying for some time to get this working.PLEASE let me know if any information is nedded.

Hi FolksRichard -I don't have the "Gold Edition" package,but will update the Wiki to include any "Gold" specific info,once I've checked my mate's Acceleration disk.Meantime, AIUI -Gold includes two discs -1) FSX Deluxe RTM disc.2) FSX Acceleration disc.Install FSX, then Acceleration.To install the SDKyou do not need to uninstall Acceleration or FSX.You do however have to install the old SDK,before you can upgrade it to the Acceleration/SP2 SDK.The Acceleration disc includes both of the required SDKs -In the disc root you'll find -1) a folder called SDK, containing -2) sdk.msi - Microsoft Flight Simulator X: Acceleration SDK, 6th October 2007, (for info, right-click then view properties).3) a child sub-folder, also called SDK, containing -4) sdk.msi - Not sure which version, unknown, (for info, right-click then view properties).Install 4),then install 2), (it'll automatically uninstall 4) :( Now run ConfigSDK.exe from wherever you've installed the SDK to.That'll update the registry settings, (only).Finally, manually edit your dll.xml.For any non-standard installation,the path must a full path.e.g.
<Path>Z:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Special Effects SDK\visualfxtool.dll</Path>

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How many dll.xml files isn't really important, as they are all the same.The only dll.xml file any user needs to be concerned with is the one the installer places in one of these folders...WinXP: C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Application Data\Microsoft\FSXVista:M:\Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX

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Hi FolksRichard -Ooops,I'd forgotten FSX itself, was on 2 DVDs. :( Just to clarify -Those 3 dll.xml files, one located in each tool's directory,are only examples of the entry required for that specific tool.As Bill says,there is only one working/active version dll.xmlits that dll.xml file located in your user profile.Please see the big red box at - FSDeveloper - Wiki - SDK Installation (FSX) - dll.xml sectionHTHATBPaul

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My .FLT and .WX files are located in Desktop\Users Name\Flight Simulator X Files, and that is all in that folder, other than files in my F:\FSX\ folder. Things are not going well for my opinion of FSX SDK, as I own the FSX original, now FSX Gold and still can not use addon tools.

How many dll.xml files isn't really important, as they are all the same.The only dll.xml file any user needs to be concerned with is the one the installer places in one of these folders...WinXP: C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Application Data\Microsoft\FSXVista:M:\Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX

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Hi FolksRichard -Nobody ever mentioned my documents folders.dll.xml location is nothing whatsoever to do with your my documents folders or .flt &.wx locations.dll.xml is in the %APPDATA% folderOS - dll.xml locationXP - C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application Data\Microsoft\FSX\Vista - C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\ ATBPaul

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My .FLT and .WX files are located in Desktop\Users Name\Flight Simulator X Files, and that is all in that folder, other than files in my F:\FSX\ folder. Things are not going well for my opinion of FSX SDK, as I own the FSX original, now FSX Gold and still can not use addon tools.
Are you still looking for the folder where your dll.xml file is??? The folder "C:\Users\<youre-name>\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files" isn't the one. If you use Vista, look in the folder that Bill suggested: C:\Users\<your-user-name>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSXThis folder AppData might be hidden, so change the Folder options in Explorer (the view tab) and select the option "Show hidden files and folders".Hope you'll find the right folder. Your fsx.cfg file should also be in the same folder. You could try to search for the file dll.xml in Explorer.

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My .FLT and .WX files are located in Desktop\Users Name\Flight Simulator X Files, and that is all in that folder, other than files in my F:\FSX\ folder. Things are not going well for my opinion of FSX SDK, as I own the FSX original, now FSX Gold and still can not use addon tools.
Yes, that is where those files are located...The "working dll.xml file" is in the same folder where the fsx.cfg file is located!You cannot be running FSX without having an fsx.cfg file, so wherever that is located is where you need to be looking...You do have "Show Hidden Files and Folders" selected in your Windows Explorer, right?

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Yes, that is where those files are located...The "working dll.xml file" is in the same folder where the fsx.cfg file is located!You cannot be running FSX without having an fsx.cfg file, so wherever that is located is where you need to be looking...You do have "Show Hidden Files and Folders" selected in your Windows Explorer, right?
Thanks! Found out files were hidden, looked at and edited both the CFG and XML files according to SDK Installation DOC, but still cant get things to work. Can I send someone a copy of each to look over? I realy don't want to uninstall and reinstall again but if this is what is needed I will gladly. If I have to would someone send me the step by step install for FSX Gold Edition? I don't understand the section:"You Must Install the appropriate SDK Service Pack version to match your FSX Service Pack version. ", in the SDK Installation DOCWouldn't all of this be on the same FSX DVD? and Expansion Pack DVD? for FSX Gold Edition as it is the latest version.Richard

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Hi FolksRichard -It'd be easier for everyoneif you just posted your dll.xml, (embed it in code tags).and we can correct it from that.To ensure you install the correct SDKplease see the steps in my post Apr 12 2009, 06:21 PMHTHATBPaul

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Hi Richard. See if the info below helps. In the attaced .zip is the same info as a .doc file. TV

Hello everyone.Note: SDK Install, Vista64, other OSs may be different.Must be in Window mode to use / see the Tools submenu.Some people have said that some Functions may not work properly with this installation.MS wants you to have everything in their Default location, for SDK. If you do not, you have to play some games with the file locations / paths. I have my FSX installed in:"C:\fsx\Microsoft Flight Simulator X"My SDK is installed in:C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDKThe easiest, in my case the only way, to get it to work is:Create a directory named "SDK" within your "Flight Simulator X" folder, and Copy "Object_Placement.dll", "visualfxtool.dll", and "traffictoolbox.dll", from your SDK directory into that new Directory . Your Path should look like this, after the above files are moved:Note: "…fsx\Microsoft Flight Simulator X" may be different depending where your FSX is installed.  "C:\fsx\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\sdk" with the above 3 files ("Object_Placement.dll", "visualfxtool.dll", and "traffictoolbox.dll") in it, make sure you have YOUR correct Drive letter and Root.The steps involved:1-Modify All (4) "dll.xml" files as they are listed below.2- Create a directory named "SDK" within your "Flight Simulator X" folder, and Copy "Object_Placement.dll", "visualfxtool.dll", and "traffictoolbox.dll" into that Directory . 3-Execute / Run "ConfigSDK.exe"4-Start FSX in Windows Mode.Post here if you need more info. TVModify your (main) "dll.xml" mine is located in: "C:\Users\YourComputername\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX"Note: This is NOT ANY one of the "dll.xml" located in the SDK subdirectory, and it depends on your OS as to where it may be located.It should look something like this, you should have your drive letter / path, where FSX is installed, instead of my "C:\fsx\Microsoft Flight Simulator X ",  ignore the FSUIPC if you do not have it:Change / Verify (main) "dll.xml" located in:"C:\Users\YourComputername\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX"This may be different path, depending on your OS.<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?><SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">  <Descr>Launch</Descr>  <Filename>dll.xml</Filename>  <Disabled>False</Disabled>  <Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad>  <Launch.Addon>    <Name>Object Placement Tool</Name>    <Disabled>False</Disabled>    <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>Change >>        <Path>C:\fsx\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\sdk\object_placement.dll</Path>  </Launch.Addon>  <Launch.Addon>    <Name>Traffic Toolbox</Name>    <Disabled>False</Disabled>    <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>Change >>        <Path>C:\fsx\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\sdk\traffictoolbox.dll</Path>  </Launch.Addon>  <Launch.Addon>    <Name>Visual Effects Tool</Name>    <Disabled>False</Disabled>    <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>Change >>        <Path>C:\fsx\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\sdk\visualfxtool.dll</Path>  </Launch.Addon>  <Launch.Addon>        <Name>FSUIPC 4</Name>        <Disabled>False</Disabled>Change >>        <Path>C:\fsx\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.dll</Path>    </Launch.Addon></SimBase.Document>Change / Verify "dll.xml" located in:Your "dll.xml" where the SDK is installed, in my case: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Mission Creation Kit"  should look something like this:<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?><SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">  <Descr>Launch</Descr>  <Filename>dll.xml</Filename>  <Disabled>False</Disabled>  <Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad>  <Launch.Addon>    <Name>Object Placement Tool</Name>    <Disabled>False</Disabled>    <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>Note:In the following line your Path should point to the location where the SDK is located, Not where the FSX is.This: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK" may be different in your system.Change >>        <Path>C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Mission Creation Kit\object_placement.dll</Path>  </Launch.Addon></SimBase.Document>Change / Verify "dll.xml" located in:C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?><SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">  <Descr>Launch</Descr>  <Filename>dll.xml</Filename>  <Disabled>False</Disabled>  <Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad>  <Launch.Addon>    <Name>Traffic Toolbox</Name>    <Disabled>False</Disabled>    <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>This: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK" may be different in your system.Change >>        <Path>C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll</Path>  </Launch.Addon></SimBase.Document>Change / Verify "dll.xml" located in:C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Special Effects SDK<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?><SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">  <Descr>Launch</Descr>  <Filename>dll.xml</Filename>  <Disabled>False</Disabled>  <Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad>  <Launch.Addon>    <Name>Visual Effects Tool</Name>    <Disabled>False</Disabled>    <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>This: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK" may be different in your system.Change >>        <Path>C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Special Effects SDK\visualfxtool.dll</Path>  </Launch.Addon></SimBase.Document>

Got an ERROR, "not permited to upload this type file"?

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Hi FolksRichard -It'd be easier for everyoneif you just posted your dll.xml, (embed it in code tags).and we can correct it from that.To ensure you install the correct SDKplease see the steps in my post Apr 12 2009, 06:21 PMHTHATBPaul
Not sure whatyoumean by (embed itin sodew tags) I thoughtsome thingscould not be posted on the forum. If someone would send me an email I would send them a copy of my XML and CFG to see if things need changed.rhill1@ma.rr.comThanks;Richard

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Hi FolksRichard -When replying to a postyou do so in the forum post editing window.At the top of that window there's a bar of icons,the rightmost one is the code rte-code-button.png button.Click it once and it'll insert a pair of code tags.Paste your dll.xml content between the tags.Ensure you also post the paths to your installations of -a} FSXb} SDKPlease ignore avcomware's post.That will not get the SDK working.ATBPaul

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Hi Paul.Interesting comment:"Please ignore avcomware's post.That will not get the SDK working."You must be one of those Experts, You know more and more about less and less, until you know everything about nothing.I've had this running for months without any problems. When you make comments like you did, you need to specify the reasons why you think that it will not work. Experts like you we do not need around here. I will guarantee that this setup will work, in every system, if done correctly. It would seem that Vista installs the SDK in a Directory that is not recognized as Default by the SDK dummies. Here is the proof, see pic below. Now it's your turn, explain Why it will not work, Mr. Expert? TV

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Hi FolksAvcomware -Those 3 tools are not the SDK.They are only 3 components of the ~ 30 executable SDK components, (total excludes samples).Whilst your workaround may work for those 3 components,correctly following the MS instructionsand others posted here, will enable the full suite of SDK tools.Please desist from ad hominem attacks.ATBPaul

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Hi Paul."Avcomware -Those 3 tools are not the SDK.They are only 3 components of the ~ 30 executable SDK components, (total excludes samples).Whilst your workaround may work for those 3 components,correctly following the MS instructionsand others posted here, will enable the full suite of SDK tools.Please desist from ad hominem attacks."You are the one that is making unfounded remarks. I will say it to you again, what I outlined makes the COMPLETE SDK work for me. Stop making unsubstantiated remarks. Have something specific? Spit it out. TV

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Hi FolksAvcomware -No offence was intended regarding your workaround.The O/P is on Vista 32.AIUI the only Vista 64 issuesarose from users who had not applied all the relevant OS patches.Either those available via windows update, or those specifically mentioned in the FSX/FSX SDK readme.Your Vista 64 specific SDK install failurewas related to the 32-bit Windows Installer (c:\windows\syswow64\msiexec.exe)not having been patched by the user.Any evidence to the contrary would be much appreciated.ATBPaul

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Hi Paul.I think we are sidetracking a bit here, but for the sake of clarity, and hopefully will help you understand better I will post some more info. I presently have FSX on a Vista64 SP1 system, with some original / initial updates until I got tired of everyday getting another one, about 6 moths ago I turned it off.I am not familiar with: "Your Vista 64 specific SDK install failurewas related to the 32-bit Windows Installer (c:\windows\syswow64\msiexec.exe)not having been patched by the user."it could very well be?I normally fix my own problems by reducing them to the basics / CPM / DOS level, tracking them down with some old utilities, that most don't help anymore. In my system, I presume partly because of my FSX Deluxe no SPs, being installed in a non default Directory, partly because of the Vista file tracking / accessing system, partly because whomever wrote the Installer, which is fairly limited, some files were never found. It may also have something to do with the SDK version? I use the one from a Gold edition without the SPs?My SDK was / is installed in the Default location that it wants to be, but FSX is not.Part of the problem is the fact that Vista does some very strange things when it thinks it's being assaulted. I've had Directories / files working one day, locked out the next, and the only way to get to them is to use a special procedure, or if I get lucky to do it in Safe Mode, to regain control. I used the same procedure on couple of other people's system, Vista 64 SP1s, and it works fine for them also.Basically, by trial and error, based on previous knowledge, changing one thing at the time, I found that moving some of files in the FSX directory made it work. The remaining SDK functions, that are in the default Directory work fine where they are. I basically ended up forcing the Paths, otherwise it would not find the files / dlls. By the way, if you are the inquiring kind, which you seem to be, try to set it up the way I have it, and see if there are any parts that do not work? It's not that difficult, and is reversible, just save your original files. I'd be curious to see if you find something that doe not work?I hope Richard can get his working. TV

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Hi FolksRichard -When replying to a post

you do so in the forum post editing window.At the top of that window there's a bar of icons,the rightmost one is the code rte-code-button.png button.Click it once and it'll insert a pair of code tags.Paste your dll.xml content between the tags.Ensure you also post the paths to your installations of -a} FSXb} SDKPlease ignore avcomware's post.That will not get the SDK working.ATBPaul[/quote]Here is a copy of my DLL.XML. Hope someone can tell me what needs fixed to get myy SDK Working.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?><SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">  <Descr>Launch</Descr>  <Filename>dll.xml</Filename>  <Disabled>False</Disabled>  <Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad>  <Launch.Addon>	<Name>Object Placement Tool</Name>	<Disabled>False</Disabled>	<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>	<Path>..F:\FSX\SDK\SDK\Mission Creation Kit\object_placement.dll</Path>  </Launch.Addon>  <Launch.Addon>	<Name>Traffic Toolbox</Name>	<Disabled>False</Disabled>	<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>	<Path>..F:\FSX\SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll</Path>  </Launch.Addon>  <Launch.Addon>	<Name>Visual Effects Tool</Name>	<Disabled>False</Disabled>	<ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>	<Path>..F:\FSX\SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Special Effects SDK\visualfxtool.dll</Path>  </Launch.Addon></SimBase.Document>

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Hi FolksRichard -It's always something simple -Remove the .. from your paths -<Path>..F:\FSX\SDK\SDK\Environ etc etcShould be -<Path>F:\FSX\SDK\SDK\Environ etc etcAvcomware -No worries.Installer failed to place some bits as msiexec.exe wasn't current. Your installation is similar to my own.C for SDKG for FSXVista UAC and ownership :(Nuff said.HTHATBPaul

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