May 9, 200917 yr Hi,Long time user, first time poster.Question is:When entering in a raw METAR into the Wx Config screen how does the program deal with wind gusts?For example YMML 112030Z 32026G50KTS BKN014 OVC032 10/10 Q1014When the METAR is parsed and the weather applied, there is no mention anywhere about the gust component in the METAR. When configuring the weather via the config interface there is no place to enter gusts either. Does AsA model the gusts at all? If not, what is the best way to model blustery conditions to make those crosswind landings that little bit harder?RegardsGreg Greg Barber VeeOz Virtual VATPAC
May 10, 200917 yr Hi Greg,The data can report gusts, but because of the wind smoothing needed for FS, the winds are going to change slowly in FS. So gusts are not going to act as gusts in FS.Thanks,
May 10, 200917 yr Hi Greg,The data can report gusts, but because of the wind smoothing needed for FS, the winds are going to change slowly in FS. So gusts are not going to act as gusts in FS.Thanks,Isn't there any way you guys can bypass the smoothing at low level gusty conditions? I think that gusting conditions on approach/take-off are something that cannot be left apart on a great weather engine like ASA
May 11, 200917 yr Hi,Sorry, but we can't just turn off wind smoothing because then there will be wind shifts.
May 11, 200917 yr Hi Jim,I have also asked this question before:http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtopic=248905I wouldn't mind windshifts at low levels. They are only a real problem in the cruise or climb at high speed (due overspeed risks).Could you not put in an option to disable DWC below 10000ft. This would keep everyone happy. Not having gusts or variations removes 80% of all the challenge during landing.Please, please, pleaseNeilps. You can do it manually by going into options and taking off DWC manually when descending through 10000ft, but this is very annoying.
May 12, 200917 yr Hi All,If one you would like, please write this up and send it to tell-us(AT)hifisim.com. If it is something we can program we can look into it for the future!Thanks,
May 12, 200917 yr Hi Jim,I have sent the email. In the other thread about this you did post:"We'll see what the next SP will do for this issue."was this just to get my hopes up :( I swear blind, that on departure from EGPH the other day I had lots of bad turbulence/gusting winds, but I suppose I was imagining it.I will set up some weather manually and see what occurs!Thanks for all your hard work,Neil
May 12, 200917 yr Hi all,i'm going along with the other Posters in this Thread : Please try to enable Wind gusts, just like syn said, this cannot be left apart in such a great Program.Greetz, Wastl
May 13, 200917 yr Hi All,Can you sit at an airport that is reporting gusts and see if the wind speed in FS does rapidly change?Please make sure this is with B406 and report back here.Thanks,
May 13, 200917 yr Hi Guys:Just thought I would chime in.I like the idea (anything for a challenge) but one of the inherent problems that I suspect a majority of simmers would have with something like this would be the issue of motion.As we all know, in a real aircraft, you can literally fly by the seat of your pants and to a certain extent 'predict' where, and when, the next gust was coming from. Obviously within our virtual world that's something that is very difficult to do without spending a lot of dough on a motion system. That said of course, smooth manual landings in a 744 are hard to do without a certain element of seat of the pants flying, yet many seem to have mastered it. Perhaps if such a facility were implemented (even able to be implemented), it could take the form of a percentage slider as with many of the other wind settings within ASA. This would enable people to gradually increase the settings to allow them to become proficient at handling such conditions, and the more confident Virtual Pilots among us to ramp the settings up and write-off a few virtual aircraft :( Not wishing to teach the dev's to suck eggs of course! :( CheersPaul Is there a way to auto ignore trolls, flamers and any post with a +1 in it here?
June 1, 200917 yr I still think that an option to disable DWC under 10,000ft would be great.Wind shifts would simulate windshear, and those that don't want it just don't tick the option?I have emailed this already.Should I do it again?ThanksNeilC
June 1, 200917 yr I still think that an option to disable DWC under 10,000ft would be great.What you are asking for is to change the weather mode from global mode to station mode during flight, this is a massive task and is likely to cause severe stuttering on anything other that the most powerful computer. Cheers, Andy.
June 1, 200917 yr a quick stutter would be fine with me (you only generally pass through FL100 twice in a flight.At the moment the only way around this is to minimise FS9, go to the options menu in ASA, and disable DWC as you pass through FL100. This helps a little bit.Anything has got to be better than going through that every time.I can't believe that this is beyond the scope of such brilliant programmers :( I spend all day at work giving wind checks to nervous pilots on final, and believe me, this is one of the most important aspects to simulate in a Flight simulator. I hate to say it, but the default FS WX does give quite good gusts (although not as good as Flight Unlimited 3 or AS2).Maybe I am asking too much?ThanksNeil
June 2, 200917 yr Hi All,With B431 you should have wind gusts, both on the ground and in the air below 10K. Damian and I privately worked and tested this out a few weeks ago, when Neil sent his mail. No, the gusts are not going to shake your plane apart, but if the conditions are nasty, as they were the night we worked on this, flying a small plane can be impossible.Now, also don't look for 10G15 winds, those aren't going to do it. Use the WX Finder and look for the nastyist wind conditions you can find. Now go there and fly a bitty plane around. Yes, this is with DWC enabled.Please report your findings here.Thanks!
June 4, 200917 yr Hello Jim,here is a test you asked for.Im using Build 406 in FS9. I've searched for Airports with gusty Winds and found SAVC, in the WX-File from May 21.2009, 8 Zulu. The Metar says winds from 270 with 34 knots, gusting up to 52 knots.Now to the Wind Speed changings.With DWC out(!), the Wind Speed changed very fast, as in my opinion it would be in the real World. It was randomly gusting up, sometimes only to 42 knots, sometimes to the 52 knots. Very realistic.With DWC on, the Speed changed, but slow. It didnt come down to the 34 knots, because when it was at 52, going down, i think ASA "played" again a gust, so that the original Speed was never reached again. I hope you understand what i mean.In summary, no problem with DWC out, but with DWC on it was not very realistic. But as you wrote before, fortunately this is no longer a problem with Build 431.But its too bad about that the Direction never(!) changed, although there were Turbulence and Windshear reported, as you can see in the Wx-Configurator Screen. But this is a thing which makes the Approach interesting!!! When a gust hits you from the side, taking you away from approach course...By the way, i monitored the speed and direction changes by pressing Shift-Z.I will now test with Build 431 and report here then.Wastl
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