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Cruising angle of MD-11

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Hello!!I've noticed that the cruising angle of MD-11 is usually around 2.6~2.8 degrees while flying at the FMS suggested optimal cruising altitude, with ECON cruising speed about Mach .825. Of course, if flying at faster cruising speed(Mach .84), the AOA reduced to about 2.5 degrees.I remember the cruising angle of Boeing 747 is usually around 2.5 degrees or even less while flying at optimal altitude and speed.Wouldn't the extra AOA generates more drag on MD-11 while reducing customer comfort? Or is it that because the COG of MD-11 tends toward the rear of the aircraft, it caused steeper AOA?

Tom Chou

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The fact that the DC-10 and MD-11 cruise in a high nose-up attitude is well known and is realistic in our FDE.. It also has a pretty large nose up deck angle on approach too. The cruise pitch was a constant complaint from flight attendents from what I heard, the food cart was always really difficult to push "uphill" when moving toward the front of the plane.

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The fact that the DC-10 and MD-11 cruise in a high nose-up attitude is well known and is realistic in our FDE.. It also has a pretty large nose up deck angle on approach too. The cruise pitch was a constant complaint from flight attendents from what I heard, the food cart was always really difficult to push "uphill" when moving toward the front of the plane.
Why not a powered food cart.... :( L'maire

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Why not a powered food cart.... :( L'maire
Or more stronger, less whiny flight attendants! :(
Or more stronger, less whiny flight attendants! :(
Let me get this right, you want FA's to be MORE manly?The pitch attitude on approach is really a pain. If you want to see where you're going, you'll need at least 20 degrees of flaps and Vmin+20. Even so, forward visibility kind of sucks until F28.Paul
Let me get this right, you want FA's to be MORE manly?
Powered galley carts it is, then. :(
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The fact that the DC-10 and MD-11 cruise in a high nose-up attitude is well known and is realistic in our FDE.. It also has a pretty large nose up deck angle on approach too. The cruise pitch was a constant complaint from flight attendents from what I heard, the food cart was always really difficult to push "uphill" when moving toward the front of the plane.
This is the concrete answer that I was looking for. The series of tri-jet is just so special that you couldn't miss its unique characteristics, and they are very interesting indeed!!

Tom Chou

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I have always marvelled at the B-52 on takeoff... almost seems to be nose down and she climbs out on eight pillars of black smoke. Amazing.

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The fact that the DC-10 and MD-11 cruise in a high nose-up attitude is well known and is realistic in our FDE.. It also has a pretty large nose up deck angle on approach too. The cruise pitch was a constant complaint from flight attendents from what I heard, the food cart was always really difficult to push "uphill" when moving toward the front of the plane.
Maybe but think of the fun they can have riding the empty cart back to the galley :( John Ellison
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Maybe but think of the fun they can have riding the empty cart back to the galley :( John Ellison
The most appropriate idea I've ever heard, but for the safety reason, I suggest that the autobrake system should be fitted and armed prior to the departure for galley.

Tom Chou

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