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CTD in Caribbean, No error message

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Hi, I recently have not been able to load a flights in the Caribbean. Other areas seem fine. I have not added any software in the area recently since I have successfully flown there last.I do have Fly Tampa's TNCM, Imagine Sim's TJSJ, AES and various other scenery that has been installed for some time. Other Imagine Sim, Fly Tampa and AES Scenery load just fine. The last change I made was installing AES 2.03 and FSDT's KFLL - both add ons seem to be running fine. The crash happens after you press fly - at 15% when loading a flight at TNCM, TISX or TJSJ (those are the airports I tested), it reverts to the desk top with no error message. I checked the event viewer and it doesn't list a dll or a program, bgl...I ran Filemon to see what the last file was before it crashed - they are terrain files but not the same file. It is a different one every time. I checked my scenery.cfg - all is well there.Below is what is the what is in the even viewer. Any ideas where I should start looking for a fix? Event Type: ErrorEvent Source: Event Category: NoneEvent ID: 0Date: 9/4/2009Time: 2:41:05 PMUser: N/AComputer: JEFFSPCDescription:The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and Support for details. The following information is part of the event: 7.Data:0000: 72886771 75cab9bb 7a816f6e 7dc2b1b30010: 62997776 65daa9ab 6a917f7e 6dd2a1a30020: 52a94746 55ea999b 5aa14f4e 5de291930030: 42b95756 45fa898b 4ab15f5e 4df281830040: 32c92726 358af9fb 3ac12f2e 3d82f1f30050: 22d93736 259ae9eb 2ad13f3e 2d92e1e30060: 12e90706 15aad9db 1ae10f0e 1da2d1d30070: 02f91716 05bac9cb 0af11f1e 0db2c1c30080: f209e7e6 f54a393b fa01efee fd4231330090: e219f7cd e55a2908 ea11ffdd fc03da7b00a0: d229c7c6 c43be27f da21cfd1 cc33ea4b00b0: 3dc62829 c661f7cf eac6e286 cd72011800c0: b269a520 b611875f ba41af8d bd02717300d0: a259b7b6 a51a696b aa51bfbe ad12616300e0: 92698786 952a595b 9a618f8e 9d22515300f0: 82799796 853a494b 8a719f9e 8d3241430100: 72896766 75cab9bb 7a816f6e 7dc2b1b30110: 62997776 65daa9ab 6a917f7e 6dd2a1a30120: 52a94746 55ea999b 5aa14f4e 5de291930130: 42b95756 45fa898b 4ab15f5e 4df281830140: 32c92726 358af9fb 3ac12f2e 3d82f1f30150: 22d93736 259ae9eb 2ad13f3e 2d92e1e30160: 12e90706 15aad9db 1ae10f0e 1da2d1d30170: 02f91716 05bac9cb 0af11f1e 0db2c1c30180: f209e7e6 f54a393b fa01efee fd4231330190: e219f7f6 e55a292b ea11fffe ed52212301a0: d229c7c6 d56a191b da21cfce dd62111301b0: c239d7d6 c57a090b ca31dfde cd72010301c0: b249a7a6 b50a797b ba41afae bd02717301d0: a259b7b6 a51a696b aa51bfbe ad12616301e0: 92698786 952a595b 9a618f8e 9d22515301f0: 82799796 853a494b 8a719f9e 8d3241430200: 72896766 75cab9bb 7a816f6e 7dc2b1b30210: 62997776 65daa9ab 6a917f7e 6dd2a1a30220: 52a94746 55ea999b 5aa14f4e 5de291930230: 42b95756 45fa898b 4ab15f5e 4df281830240: 32c92726 358af9fb 3ac12f2e 3d82f1f30250: 22d93736 259ae9eb 2ad13f3e 2d92e1e30260: 12e90706 15aad9db 1ae10f0e 1da2d1d30270: 02f91716 05bac9cb 0af11f1e 0db2c1c30280: f209e7e6 f54a393b fa01efee fd4231330290: e219f7f6 e55a292b ea11fffe ed52212302a0: d229c7c6 d56a191b da21cfce dd62111302b0: c239d7d6 c57a090b ca31dfde cd72010302c0: b249a7a6 b50a797b ba41afae

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do you have addon AI? CTD's are a common outcome of a bad AI file (either the route file or texture).--

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I do have a lot of AI. I haven't changed any of it in quite a while. I originally didn't consider ai because of when the CTD was occurring - during terrain loading. I'll take out the ai and see what happens. Thanks.edit: removing ai didn't do the trick.

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Is there any quick way to figure out how FS has the world divided up in to regions? Maybe an old post somewhere? I'd like to be sure it is just an issue in the Caribbean and not some larger issue.

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You said that you updated AES recently. Can you turn that off and give it a try?Joe
Is there a way to turn it off without uninstalling? I don't see an option in AES Help. I would ask in their forums but I have never been able to join. Activation emails always get lost and they don't respond to emails. I have been to other AES airports and they are fine and I did reinstall the latest update to see if that was the issue.SEA, on the other hand is also not loading so it is not isolated to the Caribbean.This has to be something really major, really hard to find or something really silly.Argh!It is nice how fast FS loads with out all of that ai though.

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Isn't there just a scenery.cfg entry, (or 2), for AES? If there is, you could just deactivate them. Also, check to see if there are any modules that look like they'd belong to AES. Sorry I can't be of more help, I've never had my own install of AES and am going from memory of my pal's system.Mark

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Two things I would try:1. If you have any add-on terrain mesh, temporarily disable it in the Scenery Library. Badly compiled terrain files can cause major problems. Be mindful that smaller sceneries may have the add-on mesh file in with everything else. I would be mistrustful of any recently added scenery, even that miles away from your problem.2. Try backing up, then deleting your FS9.cfg file, which will start FS up with a clean, fresh FS9.cfg. Obviously you can reinstate the original file if this doesn't fix anything.Hope this helps,John

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Thanks again for the help. Here is what I have tried. So far nothing works.Removed all ai aircraft and traffic bglsLoaded new video drivers (shot in the dark here)Restored scenery.cfg to default (this got SEA working again so it appears that the problems were different)Went through the scenery folder and took non default items including mesh and filed from TNCMUninstalled FSG Mesh and other known meshDeleted the FS9.cfgFS still won't load TNCM, TJSJ or TISX. I'm assuming that it won't load other Caribbean airports as well. At around 15%, CTD with no error message and no usable information in the event log.If anyone has any other ideas, I would really appreciate them. I was planning on building a new rig in about 6-8 weeks and switching over to FSX. If I can't get this running again, I doubt I be able to put in the time to reinstall FS9 just to uninstall it again in a few weeks.

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Have you looked at what's in your "Flight Simulator 9\Scenery\Name\Scenery" folder? I know that there is some contention depending on what has been installed in the past for a number of the bgls in there. FlyTampa, FranceVFR, and others. The original files are dated 5/31/2003 and will have another date if they have been replaced. If you want to replace what you currently have with the original files listed below, they are on Disk3 in MSGAME8.CAB of the original FS9 disks. MarkTJSJ and TISXAP930250.BGLTNCM AP931250.BGLStMaarten.bgl

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Thanks for the info. It is a strange problem and I usually can overcome these types of things. I have a ton of add ons and I have added very little over the past few months. I fly in the Caribbean frequently and this problem really came out of nowhere on a 2 year old FS install. SE Asia is also pretty hosed up but that is from another problem. If I was going to stick with FS9, I'd do a complete reinstall but since I am upgrading my rig in a few months (after Windows 7), I have moved back to FSX to keep me busy. I can't fly at major airports in FSX but I can tool around the Caribbean just fine. The performance at Imagine Sim's TJSJ and FT's TNCM is workable.I was actually surprised how much scenery for FSX I already own. Most of the scenery I have bought over the past 2 years included FSX upgrades. ASA was automatically installed in FSX as well.

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