I believe the trim is not near as critical in the JS41 as in something like an MD11. I honestly believe as long as the trim is in the TO range you can easily trim the difference after rotation. I have always used 4.0 light or heavy and she flys okay.

Dan,Have no experience on the JS41, but your statement is correct.I see the difference between these two types of aircraft as well.The MD11 needs a correct setting before TO for LSAS to operate in its full range, as designed.Being more familiar with the MD11, have published several posts in the mean time on the STAB Trim settings for that type.Hope there is (some time) a solution for drivers (=Captains and FO's) on both types.Regards,Harry

I believe the trim is not near as critical in the JS41 as in something like an MD11. I honestly believe as long as the trim is in the TO range you can easily trim the difference after rotation. I have always used 4.0 light or heavy and she flys okay.

Then why even include trim in the loadout sheet? This was listed as a fix for SP1 and now there is NO trim setting. If its fine to just set and forget anywhere in the green then why not say so in the manuals or tutorials?If you are ok with an omitted feature/bug thats fine, but I'm not.Still waiting for an official answer.-Sam

Is it a full moon tonight or something?Are you really lighting the torches passing out the pitchforks because of a missing trim value? Put it in the green band, and you'll be fine. See my previous post regarding the true complexity (and cost) of determining the actual trim value.

You really see my asking about a missing or broken feature of the aircraft as passing out torches and pitchforks? I'm sorry your feelings about a commercial product are so easily bruised.Grow up.

Well untill they fix it i am sure you have grounded yourself, but as above useing 4 or the start index works and anywhere in the green seems fine so untill you get the perfect trim setting live with it, it really is no big deal and like above its no MD-11.

I believe the trim is not near as critical in the JS41 as in something like an MD11. I honestly believe as long as the trim is in the TO range you can easily trim the difference after rotation. I have always used 4.0 light or heavy and she flys okay.

I totally agree. Sums this topic up well. Some cannot face the fact that this gem of an aircraft does not need a precise trim setting like the MD-11. But it takes all sorts to make the world go round. Even when there implying there around 70+ years old.

There's a reason they call it a simulator. The plane costs less than one night out with the wife. Put it in the green and have fun.

Sam,Many people on this forum don't speak English as their native language, so maybe you could cut him some slack. You're obviously getting yourself spooled up over something pretty trivial. So perhaps some perspective - and a quick review of previously divulged information - will help you outFirst, the reason people keep telling you that the J41 isn't an MD-11 is because of the stark contrast between the MD-11's automation and heavy reliance on computers as compared to the J41's relatively simple control scheme. Trim is CRITICAL on an aft CG airplane like the MD-11 that uses complex stability augmentation systems. The J41 is relatively insensitive to trim errors and generally speaking, if the trim is in the green band you won't have any excess control forces or unwanted moments.Second, take a look at the trim gauge. Notice the lack of index marks for setting precise trim values? The reason is because even in the real airplane, there's an element of TLAR involved. The See Gee calculator isn't the most precise instrument in the world, and there's the distinct opportunity for "interpretation" when reading the derived values. Again, setting an exact trim value to the nearest tenth of a degree is neither required, nor particularly necessary in the J41.Finally, I don't know why the takeoff trim value is no longer on the loadsheet. Perhaps it was omitted in error. Or perhaps it was decided that it added no real value to the simulation, and it was removed for the sake of simplicity. Either way, this is hardly something to get worked up over, and certainly no reason to go around insulting people and demanding answers.At the end of the day, the answer to your question has been stated several times already: Set the trim in the green band, and you're generally good to go.