For some unknown reason I can not access the MD11 forum. I have access to the 747-400 forum and have made good use of it over the last week. However my problem related to the MD11 as well as the 747. All was delt with but I now have inherited a flight control problem with the MD11. Namely I have flown two destinations and once into the STAR have lost control of the aircraft at the critical Engage the Autoland. The button does not respond and I end up overflying the desination airport.The aircraft flys without fault to this point right down to capture altitude and airspeed relative to the STAR parameters.Any ideas???Mick Hill

Obvious thought would be incorrect ILS frequency, usually caused by a mismatch between the FSX scenery and the NavData used by the FMC, but a screen shot from as soon as you notice the problem would show us exactly what it was.

Obvious thought would be incorrect ILS frequency, usually caused by a mismatch between the FSX scenery and the NavData used by the FMC, but a screen shot from as soon as you notice the problem would show us exactly what it was.

Hi Paul...Currently flying into Frankfurt in the MD11. This destination was the subject of an overfly at Localizer capture height the last time in. I am flying on route downloaded from the net and have not set the STAR yet as I am still 170nm from TD. I will save before I set the STAR and see what happens with and without STAR approach. I will also check that the runway already selected for landing by the flight plan exists in FSX Frankfurt.Mick Hill

Hi Paul...Currently flying into Frankfurt in the MD11. This destination was the subject of an overfly at Localizer capture height the last time in.

Several of the ILS frequencies at Frankfurt have changed recently, so if you are using current navdata in the MD11 it won't match the scenery data. You can use the FS map to find the frequencies you should be using.

Several of the ILS frequencies at Frankfurt have changed recently, so if you are using current navdata in the MD11 it won't match the scenery data. You can use the FS map to find the frequencies you should be using.

HI This then raises the question " Where do I input the frequencies in the MD11 so they will be picked up by the FMC?"When flying the defaut aircraft you can open up the comms: area and it is easy. I have not yet found the equivilant area on the PMDG MD11. To be honest I have not needed to until now. :( Mick Hill

HI This then raises the question " Where do I input the frequencies in the MD11 so they will be picked up by the FMC?"

It's been a while, but from the manual (FMS.10.33): On the NAV RADIO page, enter the frequency using the 4L key.

Well 3 hour flight ended in failure again. Overfly of the runways again. No recognition of the destination when I opened up Esc: and looked at the Flight Analysis. There is always the capture cone coming up even when a distance out.Once again nothing. I have taken two screen shots for you afficionados to look at. As you will see I was about 5 mins from touchdown and at capture altitude. However inspite of getting nearer and nearer APPLAND would not activate.Airspeed is OK Flaps 24 and gear down.FMC flightplan shows Rw 24L but the system is not connecting.Now I find the two screen shots I need to send you will not load unless they have a URL.The upload will not upload pictures.So I now have to go into the system and load the screen shot into a URL format and try again. How frustrating.Mick Hill Well fed up.

Mike, which approach are you trying to fly? Did you by any chance forget to load it into the FMS?The tutorial pages 25-26 show an example of loading a STAR (BLM1G) and an ILS approach (ILS14) into the FMS.

The upload will not upload pictures

Yes it will, I upload jpg's but you have to make sure they don't exceed the size limits. It is easy if you use the full reply page instead of fast reply.

Yes it will, I upload jpg's but you have to make sure they don't exceed the size limits. It is easy if you use the full reply page instead of fast reply.

Thanks Dan I will have a go.Mick

Mike, which approach are you trying to fly? Did you by any chance forget to load it into the FMS?The tutorial pages 25-26 show an example of loading a STAR (BLM1G) and an ILS approach (ILS14) into the FMS.

This one is part my fault. In the Nav Rad page I had failed to key in the ILS frequency and the ILS course. However the Star I flew brought me in at such an acute angle I did not make contact with the localiser until I was over the runway at 1600ft.I was travelling from left to right over the runway lights. I need to find a better STAR approach if there is one available.

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Well this has to be the final word on this one. Once again I have flown the FMC flightpath and STAR approach to RW 25R. The final fixes from 10000 are SUPIX @ 10000 this is where the STAR is taken from. GED @ 6930 D241E@ 5620 MTR @ 4000 this is capture altitude. Localizer is alive at this point APPLAND engages. RW 25R at 15nm from MTR.However the flight line into the airport is too acute. The runway is lying at almost right angles to the approach and as a result the vertical GS is never captured. Once again I overflew both runways 25R -25L at 4000. If the STAR will not take you in then what will. There is only one available STAR into 25R so you have no option. Everything on the ground was live but not available to me on the approach. It looks like FSX EDDF is a No No when flying the MD11 as the aircraft should be flown. I have no doubt that had I keyed in the default route via the FSX build a flight and used ATC all the way I would have had no problem at all but that is not the point. It remains for me to invite one of you to attempt a PMDG MD11 flight into EDDF using a PMDG flightplan and see what you get. Set the STAR from SUPIX into RW25R and sit back. ILS in NAV/RAD is 109.50/249The aircraft made a faultless decent from 32000 hitting all the altitude and speed parameters. The last 15nm is the problem.Mick Hill

There is something wrong, you should not be going to SUPIX coming from GED (EDIT: Reading your post again, I can see you are going SUPIX -> GED, not the other way around. Doesn't make any difference to the following, though. What is your complete route, from the departure airport?)GED3E or GED2W will take you to MTR, and when you load the 25R approach it should give you the option to select MTR as the transition. Sure, there is a 90 degree turn onto the localizer, but the MD11 has no problem with that if you are at a reasonable speed.I've flown this one before, but just the same I'll try again tonight. I'll grab some screenshots of my FMS setup, maybe you can spot where we do things differently.Are you using the default EDDF or third-party EDDF scenery?

Here are some screenshots from a short hop I made EDDK-EDDF.Route: COL T150 ROLISSTAR: ROLIS1WThis chart shows the STAR:And the approach is here (old chart, frequency is correct with FSX default EDDF, but in the real world the frequency is now 111.55):Note that, very conveniently, ROLIS1W terminates at MTR which is also the IAF for ILS25R.Because this is a short hop I installed the STAR and approach while still on the ground in Cologne. This is the bottom portion of my flight plan before installing STAR and approach:After doing a lateral revision from ROLIS and selecting the STAR and approach:After selecting INSERT, choose MTR as the approach transition:Because I'm using current navdata with the default EDDF scenery, I have to tune the ILS manually:This is showing the NAV display while I'm inbound the FFM VOR. I have to fly a left turn to MTR and two right turns on to the final approach course. The final approach fix is REDGO, where I should be at 4,000 ft and configured for the approach.I want to make sure that the manually tuned ILS is correct, so I identify it by its listening to its morse code:I got a bit high and fast during the two right-hand turns (I've just installed a new joystick and I forgot to map the speed brake). Notice that both localizer and glideslope are displayed:Just after pressing the APPR/LAND button before REDGO:Tracking the localizer and descending on the glideslope towards 25R:That's it - as you can see it is absolutely possible to fly this in the MD-11. However, you can make it easier for yourself by choosing a RNAV transition instead of a STAR when flying to Frankfurt. Instead of choosing a STAR, just choose the approach (e.g. ILS25) and select the appropriate transition (ROL25 in this case). This will give you a long straight path onto the final approach fix (REDGO in this case). This is what the chart looks like:A lot of extra flying (it's a queueing system for airplanes, basically), but it does give you more time to get properly set up.Hope this helps.