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The wind system

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I should have added that applying some Zoom Out will increase the Field of View and so improve one's peripheral vision on an approach. But use caution as Zoom also affects Distance Perception.AR

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In the air or on the ground, it doesn't matter, the same effect applies as the aircraft will want to nose into the wind. As one mentioned earlier, most of the vertical surface of aircraft is behind the aircraft's pivot point on the ground. The effect generally is less noticeable on the ground however. It should also be noted that cars have more vertical surface across their whole body and almost all of that surface in in front of its pivot point.

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"There is a feeling about an airport that no other piece of ground can have. No matter what the name of the country on whose land it lies, an airport is a place you can see and touch that leads to a reality that can only be thought and felt." - The Bridge Across Forever: A Love Story by Richard Bach

But as mentioned earlier, if you're on the ground you rudder away from the wind. If you're in the air you rudder into the wind. In that aspect the effect is not the same.

But as mentioned earlier, if you're on the ground you rudder away from the wind. If you're in the air you rudder into the wind. In that aspect the effect is not the same.
And just to add a wrinkle to the discussion- if you were taking off with skis on ice - the tactic would be the same as for in-flight: steer into the wind.However I think your life insurance policy should be in good standing if you are contemplating cross wind operations on skis!Alex Reid
But as mentioned earlier, if you're on the ground you rudder away from the wind. If you're in the air you rudder into the wind. In that aspect the effect is not the same.
In a cross wind landing you would bank into the wind and rudder away. Ruddering into it would only increase the angle between the nose of the aircraft and the runway centerline.

John Morgan

 

"There is a feeling about an airport that no other piece of ground can have. No matter what the name of the country on whose land it lies, an airport is a place you can see and touch that leads to a reality that can only be thought and felt." - The Bridge Across Forever: A Love Story by Richard Bach

That would depend if you are trying to sideslip or not.

That would depend if you are trying to sideslip or not.
..and if you're not sideslipping but instead crabbing, you don't use rudder. So your point was?What may confuse you in this whole air-ground logic is this.In the air, to go straight relative to the ground, you need to crab (point your nose at a sufficient angle to the wind) or sideslip (which is unnecessary and unconfortable except for short periods - landing).On the ground, to go straight relative to the ground, you can't crab obviously unless your aircraft has wheels that rotate like the ones in a shopping cart. You instead push the aircraft's nose away from the relative airflow (where the nose wants to go) by using rudder, so essentially what you are doing is sideslipping!Make sense?
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Sideslipping invloves using your ailerons. A straight crab does not. It's rudder only (into the wind).Do you agree with that?

Hi All,Let me be clear and state that all my explanations/examples were for a plane on the ground.Thanks,

Hi All,Let me be clear and state that all my explanations/examples were for a plane on the ground.Thanks,
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Some of you guys are either not pilots, or you really screwed up in ground school. You don't "rudder into the wind" in the air. You make a coordinated turn to get your crab angle. There are some other errors here also, but I'm going to bow out at this time.db.

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Some of you guys are either not pilots, or you really screwed up in ground school. You don't "rudder into the wind" in the air. You make a coordinated turn to get your crab angle. There are some other errors here also, but I'm going to bow out at this time.db.
As am I.
Sideslipping invloves using your ailerons. A straight crab does not. It's rudder only (into the wind).Do you agree with that?
No, I don't. No rudder is required to crab. It's level and coordinated flight.
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Woah! Didn't expect a whole debate to come from my question! :( Thanks JSKorna and January, you helped clear that up. Yes, I am rather a novice when it comes to flying in the wind in FS9, but you would have thought, studying Physics, I should have been able to answer those questions for myself! :( Thanks for the info about FSUIPC - I am a perfectionist but as long as the wind shifts are not occurring very regularly and causing my aircraft to have massive structural failures then that is the main thing! Yes, I may look into getting Active Sky at some point - at least when I have a better PC - good job on the advertising there! :( FYI the plane I was using which shows the wind direction on the PFD was Overland's A320 - not an advanced model but I'm sure they did a pretty good job. Thank you for the tips.Do we think these weather issue's will be cleared up in FS11 (when/if it comes out)? (... fat chance...)Cheers

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Do we think these weather issue's will be cleared up in FS11 (when/if it comes out)? (... fat chance...)
MichaelYes.. fat chance. There's really no one here that can answer the above question, but I'm sure you already knew that :( As for the structural failures.. I recommend that you just uncheck all failures from the FS menus. It's got nothing to do with being less realistic, but since we know the sim has some inherent bugs with these things, there is little point leaving them on. The weather system has massive wind shifts and on the ground you can run into invisible structures. Those can just make your simming a frustrating experience.
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