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Air France 777 Incident

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Never heard of this happening before, doesn't the Air/Ground logic prevent this? (Not my post below) sounds like they where flying the PSS 777...On takeoff from lagos, during the night between 11th and 12th of january, the F-QSQI [ndlr : it must be the F-GSQI] crew initiated a high speed RTO, and the airplane came 900m from the runway 36L threshold.On VR, the captain who was Pilot Flying felt a heavy strength on the controls, and thought about the stabilizer jam. He estimated the aircraft was unsafe to fly.He aborted the takeoff, maximum speed reached was 161 kt, and deceleration was -0,48g.After self taxiing back to the stand escorted by security, 6 tires deflated, brakes were cooled down by firefighters. An information communicated to crew and passengers enabled a disembarkation by door 1R.The crew, once at base, was welcomed by the division.All the brakes and tires have been changed, a fuse and boogies inspection is in progress.The ASR reveal the following facts :After pushing the TOGA buttons, the engine EPR didn

Rob Prest

 

glad everyone made it out OK, that could have been bad

So, to put it bluntly, the pilot attempted a post V1 rejection of a take-off because he accidently turned on the autopilot while on the runway?Yow.

PMDGAirbus.gif

Doug Orvis

PP-ASEL-IA (USA), Based at KHEF

 

Picture courtesy of Kyle Rodgers

because he accidently turned on the autopilot while on the runway?Yow.
Is it even possible, on a such advance airplane ?Benjamin

AP engagement is even possible with airbus, but only under certain conditions

Bryan Richards

 

"People depend so much on automation that they forget how to get the automation to work." B.W.

EPR on a B777 with GE engines ?

AP engagement is even possible with airbus, but only under certain conditions
On the ground, you are sure !? Do you have any source ?Benjamin
EPR on a B777 with GE engines ?
It could have been a 777-200, 200ER or 300 plane, with PW engines

Do you have a link to the original source?Edit: Sorry, thought I had qouted this, but obviously did not, pointed out by Benjamin below. In regards to the "Original" post, do you a link to the original post below.

Never heard of this happening before, doesn't the Air/Ground logic prevent this? (Not my post below) sounds like they where flying the PSS 777...On takeoff from lagos, during the night between 11th and 12th of january, the F-QSQI [ndlr : it must be the F-GSQI] crew initiated a high speed RTO, and the airplane came 900m from the runway 36L threshold.On VR, the captain who was Pilot Flying felt a heavy strength on the controls, and thought about the stabilizer jam. He estimated the aircraft was unsafe to fly.He aborted the takeoff, maximum speed reached was 161 kt, and deceleration was -0,48g.After self taxiing back to the stand escorted by security, 6 tires deflated, brakes were cooled down by firefighters. An information communicated to crew and passengers enabled a disembarkation by door 1R.The crew, once at base, was welcomed by the division.All the brakes and tires have been changed, a fuse and boogies inspection is in progress.The ASR reveal the following facts :After pushing the TOGA buttons, the engine EPR didn

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Dan Prunier

AP engagement is even possible with airbus, but only under certain conditions
Whatever might have caused this incident, the logic build into the MD11 will not engage an AP when on ground, but AT only.Even when pressing the dual purpose (AP+AT) AUTOFLIGHT button.Regards,Harry
Do you have a link to the original source?
Quote a post firstBenjamin
On the ground, you are sure !? Do you have any source ?Benjamin
sorry, Airbus FCOM Vol 1, Auto Flight sectionreftt.jpg

Bryan Richards

 

"People depend so much on automation that they forget how to get the automation to work." B.W.

It could have been a 777-200, 200ER or 300 plane, with PW engines
you re right but the Air France 777s : the 228 ER ERF or 328 ER are only GE without EPR indicator ...!!!! this 90B, 94B, 110 or 115 nothing on the PW side.not able to find this incident nowhere do you have a source with real report ? you should have indicated that your souce was PPrune ans radiococo ...see youPhilok i found some french infos and this is the english translation that made an EPR where it was stated GTR (french for Groupe turbo reacteur) ... a bad typo ... seems that the 777 is automated like any other new big liners ....

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