March 27, 201016 yr Just upgraded to win 7 64 b from xp 32. man what a difference (so far)! I started looking close at TH2Go, but the cash is tight (new baby ) and its a boy! finally!..anyway...I came accross this http://www.kegetys.net/forum/index.php?PHP...amp;topic=795.0I spent most of the night installing it. I think it has a future. AND its free
March 27, 201016 yr hi,Does it have an impact on performance? (FPS, Blurries stutter).It seems tricky to install.Thanks My gallery: http://s1075.photobucket.com/albums/w430/yankeegolf/
March 27, 201016 yr hi,Does it have an impact on performance? (FPS, Blurries stutter).It seems tricky to install.ThanksThere's a whole forum about SoftTH in the WideScreen Gaming Forum (search the Internet for it). SoftTH is a software solution only application, and is very sporadic with FSX. The last thing you really want is another software application like it runming at the same time FSX is fighting for your computer resources. Not too many FSX users who have tried it keep it for very long.I suggest you browse the SoftTH forum at WideScreen Gaming Forum. Rick Ryan
March 27, 201016 yr Just upgraded to win 7 64 b from xp 32. man what a difference (so far)! I started looking close at TH2Go, but the cash is tight (new baby ) and its a boy! finally!..anyway...I came accross this http://www.kegetys.net/forum/index.php?PHP...amp;topic=795.0I spent most of the night installing it. I think it has a future. AND its freeI tried it, and gave up on it. It has too many conflicts with FSX. As soon as I touched any keys it would freeze. I never could figure out why.Bill
March 29, 201016 yr Author I have to say I am having very good luck with this. Performance is very good, I really cant say whether I have a decrease or not b/c I went from xp 32 bit to win7 64 and I didnt run fsx first.The only issue so far is the mouse. The vc is not clickable. But on a vfr just flying around seattle the view is amazing. there is nothing like 3 displays. Main reason I wanted this is win 7 does not support horizontal span anylonger.I will admit it is somewhat buggy but at the same time It does have a lot of potential. If more people would use it and try to work around the bugs they might actually be able to fix some of it.
March 29, 201016 yr I have to say I am having very good luck with this. Performance is very good, I really cant say whether I have a decrease or not b/c I went from xp 32 bit to win7 64 and I didnt run fsx first.The only issue so far is the mouse. The vc is not clickable. But on a vfr just flying around seattle the view is amazing. there is nothing like 3 displays. Main reason I wanted this is win 7 does not support horizontal span anylonger.eric- I'm confused as to what this software does. Not sure why software? is needed to drive triple monitors- been standard practice with simple dual video cards for many years. Can you describe "keg----" a bit?I certainly agree that multiple Flight Sim views creates a whole new ball game! Alex Reid
March 30, 201016 yr Author alex Prior to upgrading from xp to win 7 I would use horizontal span with 2 displays. Win 7 does not support the "horizontal span" you can only clone or config separately. There is alot of talk that maybe that support will be in sp1 but who knows if and when.As for softth, I was having some distortion on the main display and found by accident that after switching to full screen to then go into display settings via alt key and check AA which kicks it into gear.The other issue I have is screen shots. tonight I am going to try one using prnt scrn. for some reason it only takes a shot of the primary display.This is a free program and its easy to install. A little difficult to figure out the settings in the cfg. If I cant get the couple of minor issues sorted I will buy th2go. Using 3 displays is a fantastic add to fsx and I will not go back to a single or dual. Hopefully go even more than 3. Not sure what you mean by Keg? DL it and check it out. From what I can tell in the forums it will either be a big pain in the A or it will work pretty decent and be a nice addition. Just b/u your fsx cfg. that is the only thing that will change. There are only 3 files to place in the root fsx folder and easy enough to delete.I am going to stick with a while. If nothing else its cool just to fly around vfr and take in the scenery
March 30, 201016 yr alex Prior to upgrading from xp to win 7 I would use horizontal span with 2 displays. Win 7 does not support the "horizontal span" you can only clone or config separately. There is alot of talk that maybe that support will be in sp1 but who knows if and when.As for softth, I was having some distortion on the main display and found by accident that after switching to full screen to then go into display settings via alt key and check AA which kicks it into gear.The other issue I have is screen shots. tonight I am going to try one using prnt scrn. for some reason it only takes a shot of the primary display.This is a free program and its easy to install. A little difficult to figure out the settings in the cfg. If I cant get the couple of minor issues sorted I will buy th2go. Using 3 displays is a fantastic add to fsx and I will not go back to a single or dual. Hopefully go even more than 3. Not sure what you mean by Keg? DL it and check it out. From what I can tell in the forums it will either be a big pain in the A or it will work pretty decent and be a nice addition. Just b/u your fsx cfg. that is the only thing that will change. There are only 3 files to place in the root fsx folder and easy enough to delete.I am going to stick with a while. If nothing else its cool just to fly around vfr and take in the sceneryEric- I really have no understanding of "horizontal span'. Is it not possible in Win 7 to use two video cards- two monitors on the primary, one on the secondary- and in Display, simply tick 'Extend the Desktop' across the three monitors? Works so easily- at least in XP, for multi monitors.With this arrangement of triple mons, it is so simple to adjust the angle of the outer views to compensate precisely for bezel separation- resulting in what the brain thinks is a single, triple wide, unified FS image.If Win 7 can't do this it's a loser, not only for Flight Sim but for much document work- I often have data sheets, pictures spread all over the mons as I work.Alex Reid
March 30, 201016 yr Author I had not thought of trying it with more than 1 graphics card. But I am going to try....how would the outer views be adjusted?
March 30, 201016 yr I had not thought of trying it with more than 1 graphics card. But I am going to try....how would the outer views be adjusted?Eric- Just open a new view by keying [ then undock and drag it to a secondary monitor for resizing to suit. You can set the view with the numeric keyboard-Control + num 7 is View Left Fwd, Control + num 9 is Right Fwd. Num lock must be on. For any view, check your FS Assignments- "Look ----". The Control key locks the setting.If you change these assignments to use Shift rather than Control, it will lock without having to key Control.To unify secondary views to take into account the bezels separating views, the outer views need to be shifted left or right by the width of the separation.The angular shift is computed as the ratio of the bezels separation divided by the horiz. width of main monitor times 45
March 31, 201016 yr Hi Alex,OK, I have arrived....PMDG guys will be happy.You have provided many references to read. Tons of very good information. I also found an old CRT monitor so, If I can get a desk big enough..LOL...I can fit the 24"wide LCD,2 x 19"square LCD and my old ummm, not sure what size the old thing is...CRT screen. Not sure how FSX keeps track of all these different screen types and sizes etc. I won't barrage you with questions...just yet...I will read up references you provided.I agree about the retirement and time to do things we want to do, without worrying about work issues and the kids sports, drop off /collections.Regards Geoff Bryce
March 31, 201016 yr Hi Alex,OK, I have arrived....PMDG guys will be happy.You have provided many references to read. Tons of very good information. I also found an old CRT monitor so, If I can get a desk big enough..LOL...I can fit the 24"wide LCD,2 x 19"square LCD and my old ummm, not sure what size the old thing is...CRT screen. Not sure how FSX keeps track of all these different screen types and sizes etc. I won't barrage you with questions...just yet...I will read up references you provided.I agree about the retirement and time to do things we want to do, without worrying about work issues and the kids sports, drop off /collections.RegardsGeoff- The 19" LCDs should work well for you. Assuming the old CRT is perhaps also about 19 (diagonal) you should be in business. If you use the 24 wide screen with the smaller LCDs, you will introduce some complexities- not insoluble but clumsy for starters. We can discuss colour balancing later to make all mons similar in appearance.I'm also assuming you have a second video card installed and set up so your desktop extends across all three monitors.ALL monitors should be placed so that their centerpoints are square to the viewers eyes. This probably requires tilt of all three. In addition, the outer mons need to be angled toward you to maintain squareness to your eyes. This likely will require small cardboard shims under the bases to ensure all monitors are in full contact along their side edges. Don't worry if this twists up the outer mons a bit- all will work out.Keeping the surfaces of all monitors square to your eyes is vital to ensure the horizon maintains a straight line in airplane roll mode.My LCDs are placed in front of the bezels of the middle CRT. Just try to ensure that the surface or face of the LCD if projected, would intersect with the side edge of the CRT screen.When you are able to drag the mouse cursor from extreme left to far right of the 3 mons, you are ready for the next step!Alex ReidNote for comparison- my 2 17" LCDs + 18" CRT occupy a total desk width of 41". Measuring along the tops of the monitors gives a perspective width of 45".With three views displayed, the Field of View is (3x45
April 3, 201016 yr eric- I'm confused as to what this software does. Not sure why software? is needed to drive triple monitors- been standard practice with simple dual video cards for many years. Can you describe "keg----" a bit?I certainly agree that multiple Flight Sim views creates a whole new ball game! Alex ReidHi Alex,This is just a software version of TH2GO. It only gives you the front view on 3 screens. The benefit of this though if you can get it working properly in FS, is you can use 3 monitors of any size, resolution, and orientation. I tried it with a 42" centre monitor in landscape mode, and two 23" monitors in portrait mode on the sides. It worked great and looked fantastic until I clicked on something, and then it froze.Bill
April 3, 201016 yr Hi Alex,This is just a software version of TH2GO. It only gives you the front view on 3 screens. The benefit of this though if you can get it working properly in FS, is you can use 3 monitors of any size, resolution, and orientation. I tried it with a 42" centre monitor in landscape mode, and two 23" monitors in portrait mode on the sides. It worked great and looked fantastic until I clicked on something, and then it froze.BillBill- Fwd view only is kind of limiting- Think I'll stick with triple views and no extra software- just a second video card.With your 42" monitor, have you tried triple views on a single screen? Seems to work just fine- visually just as smooth as single view. The triple wide view really changes how you fly.Attached triple view/single monitor pic was an experimental setup on an 18" CRT- very smooth. It performed well but on that monitor, too small to be useful. A 42" sounds pretty good for this tactic.Alex Reid PMDG 747 3 views on a single wide format monitor. (black areas are unused portions of 4:3 monitors in this wide screen format simulation)
April 5, 201016 yr It is my understanding that any old video card that fits your motherboard will work as a secondary AS LONG as it can utilize the DRIVER for the main GPU.ie, a secondary GPU needs to be of same family as main GPU....And don't worry too much about the impact on frame rate- there is some interesting performance magic that comes with multi monitors. Just to whet your interest here is a shot of the Bonanza at a rural BC mountain airport, CAR3, in reduced visibility. AMD XP2200 1.8 Ghz CPU, 2 GeForce FX5200 GPUsCheers Alex ReidI've tried that kind of multi-monitor setup using custom forward views in FSX but for me it had a very large performance impact since the overhead of each new view is almost like running another instance of FSX. That's why solutions like softth/triplehead2go/eyefinity are very efficient since the overhead for each new view is pretty small. Softth is pretty awesome and with some tweaks you can certainly get it to work with FSX. Last time I played with it it had too many annoying bugs though and the development seemed to have stopped.About the mixing of GPUs, at least in Windows 7 you can mix differnt GPU types using separate drivers (using both Nvidia and ATI/Eyefinity myself).
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