Hello , Sometimes we can see "FS11" on subjects/posts here (Avsim forum) that simmers say WOW after installing for example GEX/REX/UTX/ASE/... on our FSX with PMDG/... airplanes we cannot named it FS10 it can be FS11 or something like that.MCE WebsiteAnyway here is Add-on that said : FSX+MCE=FS11 , MCE is "Multi Crew Experience". I know it has limitation on complex aircraft such as PMDG but anyone use it with complex airplanes?It has golden star on Avsim review , and I know we can test it on demo mode. But anyone use this wit PMDG 747/MD11 , except ATC features which functions work on 747/MD11. Do you recommend it?It seems we will not see FS2Crew 2010 series on MD-11/747 soon. So I want to use it until FS2crew 2010 supports them. RegardsBob

Probably not the opinion you might be looking for, but to be 100% honest,,, if someone bought this for me I would never install it. If I found it on the street, I would pass it by and let someone else pick it up. If someone installed it in my comp without my knowledge, I would think I had a Stephen Hawking virus and format my hard drive. Hahaha.Check it out, who knows, it might be the bees knees for you, but seeing how they did what they're doing with that program it blows me away why they have such awful voice fonts. But again, this is my own opinion as it would actually take much more away from my simming than add anything to it (which I kind of prefer with my addons :( ).As for MCE+FSX=FS11. I personally would do the math like MCE+FSX=FS98.

Probably not the opinion you might be looking for, but to be 100% honest,,, if someone bought this for me I would never install it. If I found it on the street, I would pass it by and let someone else pick it up. If someone installed it in my comp without my knowledge, I would think I had a Stephen Hawking virus and format my hard drive. Hahaha.Check it out, who knows, it might be the bees knees for you, but seeing how they did what they're doing with that program it blows me away why they have such awful voice fonts. But again, this is my own opinion as it would actually take much more away from my simming than add anything to it (which I kind of prefer with my addons :( ).As for MCE+FSX=FS11. I personally would do the math like MCE+FSX=FS98.

The voice fonts can be replaced with high quality ones.Check out this video:

And this one for natural voice interaction with Radar Contact.

You might think that pre-recorded human speech is always the best way to go, until you consider spelling worldwide airport names and things like that, and you realise that synthetic voices have their advantages too.The co-pilot can read any text you submit to him, allowing countless variations in verbiage.With pre-recorded speech, you have to be absolutely sure you have recorded everything that needs be, before parting with the voice actor. There is no going back. And after you heard the few hundred wav files it becomes too predictable.One should always take product videos with a pinch of salt.It's easy to select the most powerful computer, take repeat shots, use every Hollywood trick in the book for editing, add some background music, and make believe your product is awesome.Our videos are very casual in this regard.The main difference here, is that MCE comes as a try before you buy. And there is no marketing machine that tries to frog-march you to the till, and let you put up with support later, with arguments such as "maybe your machine is not good enough", "you might need a new microphone" etc..WYSIWYG (What you see is what you get) is the motto here.Not everyone will like MCE though. And that's a fact of life. ;-))Gerald ReillyOn behalf of the FS++ team

Well, it was me who did the review of it for AVSIM, and I can tell you that the reason it got a Gold Star Award, is because it pushes the envelope in a lot of areas, is flexible, and offers a lot of bang for your bucks.As far as the voices go, they can be improved by installing any SAPI-5 compliant voice packages, which will work with it. The reason it does not come with them, is because it would not make a demo feasible and it would also push the price of it up, so it was left as a choice for the end user. Try it on Vista for example, as opposed to XP, and you will find there are more voice choices, because Vista has more of them built into it, which is evidence enough that you don't have to live with Microsoft Mary if you don't want to.The ATC stuff is great in MCE, particularly because it offers a lot of flexibility in how you respond to it with voice, since it recognises key parts of your phrasing, rather than you having to say an exact phrase. Moreover, the built-in training that makes it more accurate in picking up the nuances of your voice was cleverly combined with useful and educational information, rather than simply getting you to read out any old 'quick brown fox-type' phrases. This is just one of the aspects I was referring to when I said if pushes the envelope, and you will find that is an ethos that crops up in many facets of it. If you examine it in depth, as I had to do in order to review it thoroughly, it becomes apparent that intelligent programming and design decisions have been made throughout it.It has a great checklist feature that is easy a quick to customise (and that works with any aircraft, complex or otherwise). It's worth noting that MCE already comes with one of these specifically for the PMDG Boeing 747 too, so yes, it is intended to work with complex add-ons.It is true that when complex add-ons use custom programming outside of the FS SDK, that MCE's voice-controlled co-pilot cannot interface with such items, since there is no way for its developers to know what programming hoops any particular developer may have made FS jump through in order to get such things to work, so there are aircraft where you cannot tell the co-pilot to operate such controls, but that does not mean MCE 'does not work' with those aircraft, merely that you can't use its 'talk to the co-pilot' feature to get him to operate the odd switch. There is nothing preventing you from flipping that switch yourself! In actual fact, this was partially a deliberate choice on the part of FS++, since it does mean that it will not clash with custom routines in complex FS add-ons, and keeps system overheads to a minimum as a result of that, so again, it is more evidence of an intelligent approach to what might have been seen by a lesser developer as an insurmountable brick wall.The whole point of MCE is in its name - multi crew experience - in that it offers a multiple of options to the user, and you certainly don't have to use all of them, it is up to you which ones you have running, which is precisely why it is still useful even when a particular feature might not be completely compatible with a complex bit off programming under the hood of a particular FS add-on aircraft.You don't have to take my word for it though; download the demo and check it out. If you try it for a few flights, you will see just how much it offers. I don't necessarily suggest some sort of award for everything I review for AVSIM, but in the case of MCE, I had no hesitation in doing so, partly for its large list of features, partly because of its innovation and partly because of its value for money.Al

Hello , Sometimes we can see "FS11" on subjects/posts here (Avsim forum) that simmers say WOW after installing for example GEX/REX/UTX/ASE/... on our FSX with PMDG/... airplanes we cannot named it FS10 it can be FS11 or something like that.MCE WebsiteAnyway here is Add-on that said : FSX+MCE=FS11 , MCE is "Multi Crew Experience". I know it has limitation on complex aircraft such as PMDG but anyone use it with complex airplanes?It has golden star on Avsim review , and I know we can test it on demo mode. But anyone use this wit PMDG 747/MD11 , except ATC features which functions work on 747/MD11. Do you recommend it?It seems we will not see FS2Crew 2010 series on MD-11/747 soon. So I want to use it until FS2crew 2010 supports them. RegardsBob

Not sure if you are aware, but MCE now works with PMDG aircraft including the B747 (both FSX and FS9).You can see for yourself by trying out the Demo.Gerald R.

How would they have done that exactly? Our planes prior to the NGX don't have any way to control the AP, FMC etc externally.

How would they have done that exactly? Our planes prior to the NGX don't have any way to control the AP, FMC etc externally.

I really hope I'm not opening up a can of worms bumping this thread nor is it my intention to stir things up but I'd like to know this as well.Recent front page updates say that MCE now works with the MD-11.Now from my limited (very limited) knowledge of things, for programs like MCE or FS2CREW to work with the underlying complexity of PMDG planes a lot of little tricks and workarounds have to be implemented. This is why byork over at FS2CREW has different development cycles and products for each different PMDG plane.I personally am primarily a Radar Contact and PMDG plane user. Don't use much else. So If one were to tell me I could have the same voice functionality FS2CREW currently provides me with ALL planes and with Radar Contact...well sign me up. But I mean, it almost sounds too good to be true. Can anyone with extensive MCE + PMDG planes chime in and share their experiences?

I'm very curious here too - if they're hacking our code to do this then they are in gross violation of our EULA. Someone please let us know how this actually works - if it's just simulated mouseclicks and keypresses like what FS2Crew does, that's fine, but if they've actually hacked into our processes and stuff, that ain't gonna fly.

It got an avsim gold star award apparently... I have no clue how it works.

Personally I don't use it, I prefer FS2Crew for its simplicity. Just my feel.About copyrighted code and source, do PMDG hacks FSX/FS9 Microsoft's code with its addon aircrafts? I think no, obviously. So, I think MCE works in the same way as FS2Crew and other hundreds addons. Offsets, routines, output data reading and so on...... It's not necessary to hack something to be compatible with it.