June 25, 201015 yr Curious to know if the Small, Medium and Heavy gate and ramp designations are based on any fixed parameters in real life.If so which Boeings and Airbus fit into which categories?Radar Contact uses Jet and Heavy in its setup, so does that mean that both Small and Medium are Jet? - and why is important for ATC to know that?ThanksNicholas
June 25, 201015 yr Heavy, is a callsign addition for aircraft over 255,000lbs, but there are exceptions, most notably the Boeing 757, which was found to create quite large wake turbulence, so it is treated as a heavy even though technically, some variants of the 757 do not hit that weight. The designation helps air traffic controllers to make decisions regarding separation because of the wake turbulence effect on following aircraft, which can flip inverted in heavy wakes, so the separation gives the displaced air time to settle down.At airports, ground controllers will need to know the weight of an aircraft because the shoulders of some taxiways are not able to support aircraft of unlimited weight, so airport ground controllers might have to route a heavy aircraft along certain taxiways to avoid them damaging weaker taxiways. That is in fact one of the reasons why the B747 has so many wheels, when the first 747-100 was put into service the average footprint pressure of each wheel was the same as a 707 because the larger number of wheels distributed the weight.Al. Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
June 25, 201015 yr Heavy, is a callsign addition for aircraft over 255,000lbs, but there are exceptions, most notably the Boeing 757, which was found to create quite large wake turbulence, so it is treated as a heavy even though technically, some variants of the 757 do not hit that weight. The designation helps air traffic controllers to make decisions regarding separation because of the wake turbulence effect on following aircraft, which can flip inverted in heavy wakes, so the separation gives the displaced air time to settle down.Didn't FAA remove recently remove this 757 exception? I remember some comments in Airliners.net forums about jokes made by/to 757 pilots saying "DALXXX no longer Heavy"? And I remember about an additional category for A380: Super.Best regards from Colombia,Luis Miguel Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
June 25, 201015 yr Commercial Member Didn't FAA remove recently remove this 757 exception? I remember some comments in Airliners.net forums about jokes made by/to 757 pilots saying "DALXXX no longer Heavy"? And I remember about an additional category for A380: Super.Best regards from Colombia,Luis MiguelThat's probably for the 757 aircraft with winglets, the old design still causes a large wake.Just checked and all 757 types will no longer use the Heavy callsign but special wake turbulence separation orders will still be used by ATCRegards Rob Prest
June 25, 201015 yr And I remember about an additional category for A380: Super.It's not a new category per se, but it's just to differentiate that the aircraft is an A380 given the fact that the superjumbo has a "provisional" larger separation from other aircraft that your "regular heavy" aircraft Ed OcampoStaff ReviewerAVSIM Online[email protected]Fly DC Jets
June 25, 201015 yr It's not a new category per se, but it's just to differentiate that the aircraft is an A380 given the fact that the superjumbo has a "provisional" larger separation from other aircraft that your "regular heavy" aircraftEffective April 8th 2010, FAA amended ALL B757's to exclude them from the Heavy category as it relates to Wake Turbulence separation. This applies to both the -200 and -300 series. However, extra Wake Turbulence separation is still required (usually 1NM) as compared to other Large category aircraft (e.g. B737, M80, A320, etc.)
June 26, 201015 yr You should keep in mind that the FAA is only the North American administration for such rulings, other aviation administations around the globe do not always come to similar conclusions.Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
June 29, 201015 yr Author Thanks for the replies, but I have to repeat: Which Boeings and Airbus fit into which categories?Nicholas
June 29, 201015 yr You can work it out. Anything with MTOW over 255,000 lbs is heavy, anything with an MTOW over 41,000 lbs is medium, and anything under 41,000 lbs MTOW is small.Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
June 29, 201015 yr You can work it out. Anything with MTOW over 255,000 lbs is heavy, anything with an MTOW over 41,000 lbs is medium, and anything under 41,000 lbs MTOW is small.AlAgain, perhaps this will help to clarify:http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/N...e/N7110.525.pdf
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June 30, 201015 yr Author Thanks guys - thats what I needed.More curiosity than anything else.Nicholas
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