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Hello everyone, I am currently selling my old GTX 280 video card and wanted some advice on a new one. I was thinking about either getting a GTX 460 or a GTX 480. I have a wide screen monitor at 22 inches. What would be your recommendation? I am also in the process of purchasing a i7 950 chip as well. I may upgrade my monitor in the future to a 24 or possibly a 27 inch in the near future. Will I see any significant results for Flight Simulator (9) (X) having either card with those monitor sizes? Thanks in advance. This is a very informative and friendly forum and I have already learned so much in such little time.Lyndon

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If you are going to upgrade to a i7 950 and plan on overclocking the chip go with the GTX 480, that will give you a lot better performance than the GTX 460. As long as you have a decent motherboard and CPU cooler the 950 can hit 4.2GHz easy.

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The GTX460 if you want to save some money. But the GTX480 if you want the best.The monitor seize is irrelevant to performance, it's the resolution.

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Thanks for the replies guys and responding so quickly. Yes I did plan on overclocking the i7 950 and purchasing the MSI GTX 480 as I have read good reviews compared to the EVGA 480's. The MSI appears to be the best bang for the buck, please tell me whether you disagree or not. The board I'm going to be upgrading to is the Gigabyte X58 UD5. For the cooling I will go with the Hydro H70. I'm also goint to go with 2 120GB Gskill SSD's, Corsair AX850 power supply and either mushkin or Gskill memory all in a Cooler Master HAF X case. Lyndon

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If you are going to upgrade to a i7 950 and plan on overclocking the chip go with the GTX 480, that will give you a lot better performance than the GTX 460.  As long as you have a decent motherboard and CPU cooler the 950 can hit 4.2GHz easy.
I don't understand - FSX can't keep up with my 460 so the difference between a 480 and 460 is negligible IMO.  The decision also depends on if you have newer games or not.  In that case I would SLI another 460.jja

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Thanks for the replies guys and responding so quickly. Yes I did plan on overclocking the i7 950 and purchasing the MSI GTX 480 as I have read good reviews compared to the EVGA 480's. The MSI appears to be the best bang for the buck, please tell me whether you disagree or not. The board I'm going to be upgrading to is the Gigabyte X58 UD5. For the cooling I will go with the Hydro H70. I'm also goint to go with 2 120GB Gskill SSD's, Corsair AX850 power supply and either mushkin or Gskill memory all in a Cooler Master HAF X case. Lyndon
Yeah the GTX480 looks great this one right here is a super deal http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127502&cm_re=GTX_480-_-14-127-502-_-Productand the H70 is a great coolign solution. You'll have a really good rig there, good luck

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Thanks for the replies guys and responding so quickly. Yes I did plan on overclocking the i7 950 and purchasing the MSI GTX 480 as I have read good reviews compared to the EVGA 480's. The MSI appears to be the best bang for the buck, please tell me whether you disagree or not. The board I'm going to be upgrading to is the Gigabyte X58 UD5. For the cooling I will go with the Hydro H70. I'm also goint to go with 2 120GB Gskill SSD's, Corsair AX850 power supply and either mushkin or Gskill memory all in a Cooler Master HAF X case. Lyndon
I have your chosen Mobo, it has been great with one click overclocking up to 4.16GHZ using the Easy Tune 6 software supplied. Enjoy.

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Thank you guys for all the advice. Luckyman, my resolution in FS (9) (10) will be 1680 x 1050, at least that's where it's at right now with my monitor. And John thank's, I'm looking forward to using that motherboard.Lyndon

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Thank you guys for all the advice. Luckyman, my resolution in FS (9) (10) will be 1680 x 1050, at least that's where it's at right now with my monitor. And John thank's, I'm looking forward to using that motherboard.Lyndon
Yeah that's a pretty small resolution. The better the card the more it will help you when you get up there past 1920 x 1080. So a GTX460 also looks good, it all depends on how much you wanna spend.

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Yeah that's a pretty small resolution. The better the card the more it will help you when you get up there past 1920 x 1080. So a GTX460 also looks good, it all depends on how much you wanna spend.
So are you saying it could go either way then with both my current monitor size and resolution. I may not upgrade the monitor for a while. I don't want to purchase something which I don't need. Thanks again for the repliy and the help.Lyndon

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I don't understand - FSX can't keep up with my 460 so the difference between a 480 and 460 is negligible IMO. The decision also depends on if you have newer games or not. In that case I would SLI another 460.jja
Having flown about 30-40 hours together with a friend who has a GTX480, on pretty much same scenery/weather/airplane and FS settings, we more or less get the same performance. I've got a 460 and it seems to keep up with the GTX480 in FSX without problems. Both of us have a 24'' monitor with 1920x1080 resolution. Other games are a different story, though - I need to turn off HBAO in Battlefield to get 60FPS constant in FULL HD resolution, and he doesn't :)

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I think I may just go for a gtx460 then since my only game is flightsim which is played on a 22 inch monitor. Any suggestions on the best and most powerfull GTX 460? I'm thinking one of the EVGA's superclocked. Thanks again for all the help guys. Much appreciated.

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Most of the 'overclocked' editions are overclocked to 725MHz core. But, it appears that the core clock doesn't make that big of a difference in FS, since I clocked mine up to 900MHz and it made absolutely no difference in FS.

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Fair enough, I'm going to purchase the card, hopefully tommorrow. I'm just waiting for some funds which should be in my hand by the end of the day. I just want the something really excellent for my monitor size and resolution.Lyndon

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Fair enough, I'm going to purchase the card, hopefully tommorrow. I'm just waiting for some funds which should be in my hand by the end of the day. I just want the something really excellent for my monitor size and resolution.Lyndon
Good move!   Get the 1GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=gigabyte+460&x=0&y=0  The fan will never go over 60% which you won't hear.Cheersjja

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IMHO the 460 isn't that much of a better card than the 280GTX -all things FSX, 470-480 you will see much more improvement for hi-res and hi-AA.

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IMHO the 460 isn't that much of a better card than the 280GTX -all things FSX, 470-480 you will see much more improvement for hi-res and hi-AA.
Really? Even with a monitor with the resolution I have? So confusing. I initially had my heart set on a gtx 480, but heard it never really made a difference with fs. Oh well.Lyndon

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Really? Even with a monitor with the resolution I have? So confusing. I initially had my heart set on a gtx 480, but heard it never really made a difference with fs. Oh well.Lyndon
Hi,The 460 performs just bairly better than a 285GTX in DX9/10, you might want to look up benchmarks and compare, its especially true in FSX.It offers less memory bandwidth then your 280 but has a faster core clock especially if O/C but thats all your going to get besides DX11.If anything at least get a 470 and you wont be throwing your money away - as in looking for an upgrade much sooner.Just sayin...

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MSI N480GTX-M2D15-B GeForce GTX 480is $449 at Amazon.com which is a bit better than NewEgg

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The 460 GTX is the indisputable price performance king when it comes to FSX.  Use the money that you don't spend for the overpriced 480 for a gift for the wife or girlfriend.  You will be a hero!jja

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The 460 GTX is the indisputable price performance king when it comes to FSX. Use the money that you don't spend for the overpriced 480 for a gift for the wife or girlfriend. You will be a hero!jja
:biggrin: :biggrin: That's always an option too

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Hahaha. You guys are funny. The wife and kids have all they need at the moment. This is a gift to myself. I know I ask a lot of questions but what do you guys think of the 980x versus the 950. Thinkin about getting a 980 instead but don't wanna waste money if when overclocked the same, both chips yield the same results. I promise that's my last dilemma. Lyndon

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Hahaha. You guys are funny. The wife and kids have all they need at the moment. This is a gift to myself. I know I ask a lot of questions but what do you guys think of the 980x versus the 950. Thinkin about getting a 980 instead but don't wanna waste money if when overclocked the same, both chips yield the same results. I promise that's my last dilemma. Lyndon
So what did you decide for the card??Anyway the differnce is the 980X is an 32NM architechture and the 950 is a 45NM technology. They both overclock to around 4.2Ghz maybe more if you're skilled. The 980X is easier to overclcok and performs better because of its architecture. But it's up to you is 700$ worth that little bit of performance, just like the cards.

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The 460 GTX is the indisputable price performance king when it comes to FSX. Use the money that you don't spend for the overpriced 480 for a gift for the wife or girlfriend. You will be a hero!jja
Hi,Perspective: If you dont own a decent card or are building a new system on a budget, then sure the 460 offers a certain bang/buck quotient in the $200 range......but.....What is "undisputable" is that the OP already owns the "price performance king" as far as this thread or one like it goes, its free, he owns it! - And it gives about 95-105+% of the performance of the card you keep recommending him to buy. Why would you want him to do that?AnandTech's review of a 465GTX - which is a bit better than a 460: But thats ok since they compare a 465 vs a 285 and we are talking 460 vs 280Anands:"Meanwhile on a broader horizon, we noticed something interesting about the GTX 465: it’s really, really close to the GTX 285. In terms of gaming performance the difference is under 4%, while temperatures, power consumption, and even noise were all very close to NVIDIA’s last-generation king. Whether it was intentional or not, the GTX 465 feels like a GTX 285 with DirectX 11. At nearly 2 years old the GTX 285’s place in the world has been well established in most enthusiasts’ minds and the GTX 465 actually fits this mold nicely. This isn’t necessarily a good thing since we’ve moved on to 40nm and the Radeon HD 5000 series, but if you’ve ever wanted to know what a GTX 285 with DirectX 11 would be like, we would imagine it would be a lot like the GTX 465."Or if Toms is your bag check this GPU Hierarchy chartThe 280/285 are lumped in with the 470 Fermis....and the 460? Its below with the 260 and 275GTX - There is a reason for that.or maybe Guruhut benchies...

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