November 7, 201015 yr Which aircraft has coolant supplied to each passenger window in order to stop the passengers burning their noses when looking out?vololiberista Super VC10 into LOWI with PF3 at a cinema near you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298UDyNmgUA
November 7, 201015 yr OK, I'll be the first one to give a wrong answer :(. Let's see how flawed is my analysis:- Windows are hot because of friction with the air.- Friction-based heat is only important at high speeds, i.e, over Mach 1.0- AFAIK, there are only two aircraft that carry pax (that may want to look outside) at those speeds: Concorde and Tu-144.- I have never heard about any cooling system in the Concorde's pax windows.These considerations leave me with the Concordski :( as my answer.Best regards from Colombia,Luis Miguel Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
November 8, 201015 yr Author OK, I'll be the first one to give a wrong answer :(. Let's see how flawed is my analysis:- Windows are hot because of friction with the air.- Friction-based heat is only important at high speeds, i.e, over Mach 1.0- AFAIK, there are only two aircraft that carry pax (that may want to look outside) at those speeds: Concorde and Tu-144.- I have never heard about any cooling system in the Concorde's pax windows.These considerations leave me with the Concordski :( as my answer.Best regards from Colombia,Luis MiguelThe answer is Concorde. The windows reach almost 100 celsius hence the coolant pipes which you can see exposed in this photo. Notice also how the panel containing the windows is milled out of solid metal. As were the complete side panels of the VC10.vololiberista Super VC10 into LOWI with PF3 at a cinema near you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298UDyNmgUA
November 8, 201015 yr Okay, here's another good Concorde question for you: Why was Concorde's nose drooped to 12.5 degrees for a landing, but only drooped to 5 degrees for a take off?Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
November 8, 201015 yr Okay, here's another good Concorde question for you: Why was Concorde's nose drooped to 12.5 degrees for a landing, but only drooped to 5 degrees for a take off?AlSo the pilot can see the landing runway over the nose?
November 8, 201015 yr Less friction with the wind, so it could reach V1 faster with 5 degree as it would with 12 degree angle. Matjaž Nebec IVAO Slovenija http://ivao.si/en/
November 8, 201015 yr Concorde flares unusually high owing to its delta wing, so if the nose was at 5 degrees, the pilot would only really be able to see the sky and the nose when landing? Andrew McCluskey
November 8, 201015 yr Pretty much everyone got the reasons there. Visibility on the approach is the reason why the nose goes lower on a landing, although the nose was originally designed to go very much lower than the 12.5 degrees the designers eventually settled upon, because although the angle of attack is quite high for Concorde on approach, pilots complained that they would lose a useful visual steering reference with the nose out of sight completely, so up it came a bit on the finalised design. On take off it needed to be out of the way a bit to enable the runway centreline to be clearly seen, but also partially in sight as steering reference, and it also needed to be aerodynamically cleaner than the landing droop in order to promote better airflow for acceleration, so a small droop was deemed enough for take off. All very clever stuff.Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
November 10, 201015 yr I'm sure you probably all know this, but I'll chuck these in anyway - Did you know Concorde is almost a foot longer in cruise than it is on the ground, and that the surface metal heats up to the boiling point of water?Did you also know that 10% of the engine's power goes to air conditioning, for that exact reason? Without it the passengers and crew would cook.Yeah, thought you knew that. HahaIncredible stuff though. Really is mind boggling when you think about it. Concorde was/is an incredible machine indeed.
November 10, 201015 yr Author I'm sure you probably all know this, but I'll chuck these in anyway - Did you know Concorde is almost a foot longer in cruise than it is on the ground, and that the surface metal heats up to the boiling point of water?Did you also know that 10% of the engine's power goes to air conditioning, for that exact reason? Without it the passengers and crew would cook.Yeah, thought you knew that. HahaIncredible stuff though. Really is mind boggling when you think about it. Concorde was/is an incredible machine indeed.The fuselage grows 8" longer at Mach2 and it is still lthe only supersonic aircraft ever built that once up to supersonic speed throttles the engines back!!!vololiberista Super VC10 into LOWI with PF3 at a cinema near you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298UDyNmgUA
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