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ice effects simulated?

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hello, since its getting colder everyday, i would like to know if there is any ice simulation in the md11 (wings, engine...) (i mean system simulation, not visual...) thank you Michael Knittl

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hello, since its getting colder everyday, i would like to know if there is any ice simulation in the md11 (wings, engine...) (i mean system simulation, not visual...) thank you Michael Knittl
yes

Really? I mean I never tried it, but I doubt that icing really affects the aircraft (apart from fuel temperature).

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Hello,it seems like its not modeled. I am currently flying at FL320 with no Anti-Ice engaged while the TAT shows -27C (ASE shows -38C). If i turn it on it says "no ice detected". Luis Massas

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Ice doesn't just spontaneously appear. You need to be in visible moisture and have temps below 8C. At FL320 you generally don't run into icing that much. It's more of a departure/approach-phase issue.

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You need to be flying in cloud for an extended period for enough Ice to form to affect your aircraft. Im not a 100% sure whats modeled on the MD-11 as ive not been flying it long but I do know regional jets are more prone to Ice build up as they usualy fly at lower altitudes where there is more chance of being in cloud.Andrew Simmons

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I don't believe it's modeled. I've never gotten any icing warning in the MD-11. Even in the JS41, I think it's just a visual effect. At least I haven't noticed the ice to affect flight characteristics. It's probably something that is difficult to simulate correctly in FSX.

I don't believe it's modeled. I've never gotten any icing warning in the MD-11. Even in the JS41, I think it's just a visual effect. At least I haven't noticed the ice to affect flight characteristics. It's probably something that is difficult to simulate correctly in FSX.
Oh, the warning is modeled on the MD11. But icing doesn't affect handling and aerodynamics of the aircraft. I think there was an aircraft, that tried to simulate icing effects through custom coding, but I can't remember which one.

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thank you for your anwsers

best regards,

Michael K N I T T L

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At our company we use TAT tempeture of -10 to +10 in visible moisture,ie clouds, overcast layers, or snow for engine heat maintaining a 55% N1. When you get low and slow then throw on wing heat. In fs9 I use these procedures and it works fine . Hope this helps.Shannon Stewert

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Hello,it seems like its not modeled. I am currently flying at FL320 with no Anti-Ice engaged while the TAT shows -27C (ASE shows -38C). If i turn it on it says "no ice detected". Luis Massas
Just to answer a few of your questions - At -27c you wont get icing even in the real world, the temp is too low for ice to form. In order to get Ice in FS you have to be flying within the correct temp range with moisture in the air (Thunderstorms are a good example) you also need Active sky and fsuipc to have it modeled, Active sky increases the gross weight of the aircraft as ice builds on the wings this results in the aircraft having a lower stall speed, it's crude but it's better then nothing.Regards

Rob Prest

 

Just to answer a few of your questions - At -27c you wont get icing even in the real world, the temp is too low for ice to form. In order to get Ice in FS you have to be flying within the correct temp range with moisture in the air (Thunderstorms are a good example) you also need Active sky and fsuipc to have it modeled, Active sky increases the gross weight of the aircraft as ice builds on the wings this results in the aircraft having a lower stall speed, it's crude but it's better then nothing.Regards
I am sure you mean a higher stall speed. Thanks for the FSUIPC info though. Wasn't aware of that. Pretty neat.

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