Head scratcher ... Would anyone know or have an idea How it could be possible to have a Child rotation ? To elaborate, think of a Ferris wheel .... It rotates around its centre, No problem,However the "cars" on the Ferris wheel are attached to their own pivots around the circumference of the wheel .. These "Cars" then rotate to stay level with the ground as they are carried around on the wheel. In FSX GAUGE Terms, we are trying to achieve a Digital HSI, where the N S E W and Numerals, stay Upright as they rotate around the edge of the Compass Card.. Told you it was a Head Scratcher :) Anyone ?

Head scratcher ... Would anyone know or have an idea How it could be possible to have a Child rotation ? To elaborate, think of a Ferris wheel .... It rotates around its centre, No problem,However the "cars" on the Ferris wheel are attached to their own pivots around the circumference of the wheel .. These "Cars" then rotate to stay level with the ground as they are carried around on the wheel. In FSX GAUGE Terms, we are trying to achieve a Digital HSI, where the N S E W and Numerals, stay Upright as they rotate around the edge of the Compass Card.. Told you it was a Head Scratcher :) Anyone ?

If they rotate with the parent item then you could add a second rotation to them with the same angle but in the opposite direction.Another option is to not make them child items and use shift to move them around in a circle.

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/71566-xml-rose-and-arc/page__view__findpost__p__1503387__hl__rotate__fromsearch__1Roman

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/71566-xml-rose-and-arc/page__view__findpost__p__1503387__hl__rotate__fromsearch__1Roman

Great code snippets guys , As always .. However, I fear a little misunderstanding :) The Code you linked to is fine to a point, BUT ( and here is the head scratcher ) The NUMBERS MUST Remain Upright to the viewer as they rotate ... So for example the "W" when heading is EAST .. should still be upright "W" and not "M" I refer again to my analogy of the Ferris wheel .... Everyone stay in the Cars all the way around the ride because they always stay Upright .. perpendicular to the ground .. I have been struggling with this one for weeks now :(

Hi,We solved that problem already in 2004.There was a post with an attachment of Karl, but probably impossible to recover after the Avsim crash.It was about a Sandel like HSI in a 2 engine Cessna.Maybe fr. Bill still has a copy somewhere?Never used it because in the 767 MFD the cifers turn as in reality (don't stay horizontal)This is a "custom" solution, see Jeroen:Calculated only for 30 and 45 degrees, but one can have as many in the Nonlin. table.Other solutions?<Shift><Value>(A:Plane heading degrees gyro,degrees)</Value><Nonlinearity><Item Value= "0" X= "0" Y= "80"/><Item Value= "30" X= "40" Y= "69"/><Item Value= "45" X= "57" Y= "57"/><Item Value= "60" X= "69" Y= "40"/><Item Value= "90" X= "80" Y= "0"/><Item Value="120" X= "69" Y="-40"/><Item Value="135" X= "57" Y="-57"/><Item Value="150" X= "40" Y="-69"/><Item Value="180" X= "0" Y="-80"/><Item Value="210" X="-40" Y="-69"/><Item Value="225" X="-57" Y="-57"/><Item Value="240" X="-69" Y="-40"/><Item Value="270" X="-80" Y= "0"/><Item Value="300" X="-69" Y= "40"/><Item Value="315" X="-57" Y= "57"/><Item Value="330" X="-40" Y= "69"/><Item Value="360" X= "0" Y= "80"/></Nonlinearity></Shift></Element>Hope it helps,Jan

Hi,We solved that problem already in 2004.There was a post with an attachment of Karl, but probably impossible to recover after the Avsim crash.It was about a Sandel like HSI in a 2 engine Cessna.Maybe fr. Bill still has a copy somewhere?Never used it because in the 767 MFD the cifers turn as in reality (don't stay horizontal)This is a "custom" solution, see Jeroen:Calculated only for 30 and 45 degrees, but one can have as many in the Nonlin. table.Other solutions?<Shift><Value>(A:Plane heading degrees gyro,degrees)</Value><Nonlinearity><Item Value= "0" X= "0" Y= "80"/><Item Value= "30" X= "40" Y= "69"/><Item Value= "45" X= "57" Y= "57"/><Item Value= "60" X= "69" Y= "40"/><Item Value= "90" X= "80" Y= "0"/><Item Value="120" X= "69" Y="-40"/><Item Value="135" X= "57" Y="-57"/><Item Value="150" X= "40" Y="-69"/><Item Value="180" X= "0" Y="-80"/><Item Value="210" X="-40" Y="-69"/><Item Value="225" X="-57" Y="-57"/><Item Value="240" X="-69" Y="-40"/><Item Value="270" X="-80" Y= "0"/><Item Value="300" X="-69" Y= "40"/><Item Value="315" X="-57" Y= "57"/><Item Value="330" X="-40" Y= "69"/><Item Value="360" X= "0" Y= "80"/></Nonlinearity></Shift></Element>Hope it helps,Jan

I found this used in a HSI <Element> <Position X="85" Y="69"/> <Element> <Position X="0" Y="0"/> <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes"> <Pivot X="0" Y="53"/> <String>N</String> </FormattedText> </Element> <Element> <Position X="0" Y="0"/> <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes"> <Pivot X="-25" Y="46"/> <String>3</String> </FormattedText> </Element> <Element> <Position X="0" Y="0"/> <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes"> <Pivot X="-46" Y="26"/> <String>6</String> </FormattedText> </Element> <Element> <Position X="0" Y="0"/> <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes"> <Pivot X="-53" Y="0"/> <String>E</String> </FormattedText> </Element> <Element> <Position X="0" Y="0"/> <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes"> <Pivot X="-46" Y="-26"/> <String>12</String> </FormattedText> </Element> <Element> <Position X="0" Y="0"/> <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes"> <Pivot X="-25" Y="-46"/> <String>15</String> </FormattedText> </Element> <Element> <Position X="0" Y="0"/> <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes"> <Pivot X="0" Y="-53"/> <String>S</String> </FormattedText> </Element> <Element> <Position X="0" Y="0"/> <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes"> <Pivot X="25" Y="-46"/> <String>21</String> </FormattedText> </Element> <Element> <Position X="0" Y="0"/> <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes"> <Pivot X="46" Y="-26"/> <String>24</String> </FormattedText> </Element> <Element> <Position X="0" Y="0"/> <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes"> <Pivot X="53" Y="0"/> <String>W</String> </FormattedText> </Element> <Element> <Position X="0" Y="0"/> <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes"> <Pivot X="46" Y="26"/> <String>30</String> </FormattedText> </Element> <Element> <Position X="0" Y="0"/> <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes"> <Pivot X="25" Y="46"/> <String>33</String> </FormattedText> </Element> <Rotate> <Value>(A:Plane heading degrees gyro, radians) /-/</Value> </Rotate> </Element>PVE

Hi,Nice one!Jan

Hi,Nice one!Jan

It is nice, but would have been so MUCH nicer had the script been pasted into a "code" box!See the "<>" icon on the toolbar? Highlight your sample XML script, then click on it......notice how the indented formatting and colors make it easier to read? :( Since the final <Rotate> is clearly part of the Parent <Element>, it makes what it affects very, very obvious, i.e., rotating all of the Child <Element>s!

<Element>  <Position X="85" Y="69"/>  <Element>    <Position X="0" Y="0"/>    <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes">      <Pivot X="0" Y="53"/>      <String>N</String>    </FormattedText>  </Element>  <Element>    <Position X="0" Y="0"/>    <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes">      <Pivot X="-25" Y="46"/>      <String>3</String>    </FormattedText>  </Element>  <Element>    <Position X="0" Y="0"/>    <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes">      <Pivot X="-46" Y="26"/>      <String>6</String>    </FormattedText>  </Element>  <Element>    <Position X="0" Y="0"/>    <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes">      <Pivot X="-53" Y="0"/>      <String>E</String>    </FormattedText>  </Element>  <Element>    <Position X="0" Y="0"/>    <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes">      <Pivot X="-46" Y="-26"/>      <String>12</String>    </FormattedText>  </Element>  <Element>    <Position X="0" Y="0"/>    <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes">      <Pivot X="-25" Y="-46"/>      <String>15</String>    </FormattedText>  </Element>  <Element>    <Position X="0" Y="0"/>    <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes">      <Pivot X="0" Y="-53"/>      <String>S</String>    </FormattedText>  </Element>  <Element>    <Position X="0" Y="0"/>    <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes">      <Pivot X="25" Y="-46"/>      <String>21</String>    </FormattedText>  </Element>  <Element>    <Position X="0" Y="0"/>    <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes">      <Pivot X="46" Y="-26"/>      <String>24</String>    </FormattedText>  </Element>  <Element>    <Position X="0" Y="0"/>    <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes">      <Pivot X="53" Y="0"/>      <String>W</String>    </FormattedText>  </Element>  <Element>    <Position X="0" Y="0"/>    <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes">      <Pivot X="46" Y="26"/>      <String>30</String>    </FormattedText>  </Element>  <Element>    <Position X="0" Y="0"/>    <FormattedText X="10" Y="10" Font="Arial" FontSize="10" Adjust="Center" Color="White" VerticalAdjust="Center" Bright="Yes">      <Pivot X="25" Y="46"/>      <String>33</String>    </FormattedText>  </Element>  <Rotate>    <Value>(A:Plane heading degrees gyro, radians) /-/</Value>  </Rotate></Element>

BillMy reply page seems to be broken I have bits missing includung my sig box which never shows anymore. I have to type it each time and chars. that don't show. It might be a problem with the keyboard I'll get my boffin to check it out. Grin!PVEEGLD

Hi,Tested the code:Rotation ok.Numbers stay upright!One to save.Jan

Hey there!Only one question here, excuse my intromision. Are those X's And Y's negative pivot values accepted by Flight simulator or they have to be adjusted?. I read once that FS doesn't accept negative values.Javier

Hey there!Only one question here, excuse my intromision. Are those X's And Y's negative pivot values accepted by Flight simulator or they have to be adjusted?. I read once that FS doesn't accept negative values.Javier

The only instance where FS is intolerant of negative values is in the panel.cfg's placement parameters of XML "gauges" where either X or Y are negative.Within a gauge however, negative values are not a problem.

Thank you!, it was very kind of you.Javier