It will fit in your H67 and P67 mobo....lets wait and see what the bulldozer will bring as far as perf.Another $300.00 to upgrade?http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/22322-ivy-bridge-20-percent-faster-than-sandy

I wouldn't trust a rumor that originates from Fudzilla, at least not on the surface. Ivy Bridge brings no architectural enhancements over Sandy Bridge in terms of average case IPC, its performance gains are likely to be related to clockspeed improvements. Since Sandy Bridge already overclocks so well, and a 20% increase over the ~5GHz we see from many Sandy chips today would yield 6GHz, it is incredibly unlikely that we will be seeing 6GHz chips on air any time soon, even at 22nm. So what we may see are out-of-the-box clockspeed increases that translate to little to no gain in overclocked potential. Ivy Bridge might hit 5.2-5.4GHz on air but I would honestly be shocked if it got much higher.

Here is another site explaining a little more why it will be 20% faster but from this article..." It is unclear whether Ivy Bridge CPUs will be able to work on current mainboards for latest-generation chips."http://www.xbitlabs....dge_Report.html

Wait until LGA2011 drops. Sandy bridge will be left in the dust! (No pun intended)Keep in mind that SB is NOT an enthusiast platform. It's a basic "mid-range" setup. When the enthusiast platform (X79) does hit shelves, expect a marked improvement.

Wait until LGA2011 drops. Sandy bridge will be left in the dust! (No pun intended)Keep in mind that SB is NOT an enthusiast platform. It's a basic "mid-range" setup. When the enthusiast platform (X79) does hit shelves, expect a marked improvement.

That's what I was thinking....we also need to keep in mind AMD with their new bulldozer.....will it be better..the race is on.

Here is the relevant portion of that second article:

It is expected that Ivy Bridge CPUs, which will be made using 22nm process technology, will have certain micro-architecture level enhancements along with clock-speed and some other methods to boost performance.

All the information I've seen about Ivy Bridge indicates that there are approximately zero architectural tweaks that would contribute to average-case IPC. If one of these news sites has contrary information and cares to divulge it then I'd consider it. You'll notice also in that quote that clockspeed gains are mentioned specifically as a method for boosting performance, as I had mentioned.

Here is the relevant portion of that second article:All the information I've seen about Ivy Bridge indicates that there are approximately zero architectural tweaks that would contribute to average-case IPC. If one of these news sites has contrary information and cares to divulge it then I'd consider it. You'll notice also in that quote that clockspeed gains are mentioned specifically as a method for boosting performance, as I had mentioned.

I agree with you cause we don't know much yet and it may well be just a GHz boost, still if the Ivy Bridge can overclock higher compare to the Sandy Bridge on air 5.4GHz > who ever is on the 775 socket may be tempted to get on board.......

Wait until LGA2011 drops. Sandy bridge will be left in the dust! (No pun intended)Keep in mind that SB is NOT an enthusiast platform. It's a basic "mid-range" setup. When the enthusiast platform (X79) does hit shelves, expect a marked improvement.

I appreciate your enthusiasm but this is not a realistic expectation. Socket 2011 enables the use of Sandy Bridge E processors, which are in fact Sandy Bridge processors with a different core count and packaging to accommodate a wider memory controller. Unfortunately, this will not significantly impact performance as it pertains to FSX. We have seen already with FSX that once you reach a certain level of core count and memory width, increases in these items have no impact on FSX performance. See: i7 8xx vs. 9xx for a perfect illustration of both of these principles.

The Fudzilla article is up to the minute while the other one is dated. Indications are that Ivy Bridge will be faster than the 2011 socket SB CPUs and will fit on the 1150 P67-B3 motherboards with a new bios flash. It will be back to the future once again. One thing for certain, the present SB is indeed far ahead of anything Intel had before, particularily for the FSX performance enthusiast. Only those who have talked themselves out of the 1155 will say any different. Those who have flown with a 5.0 OC'ed i7 2500K or i7 2600K know what that really means.So, it seems that the smart thing to do is to buy the best of what now is, the 1150 socket SB, and then decide later if Ivy Bridge is worth trading up CPUs for. If so, just swap out CPUs and an hour or so later you will be enjoying the latest and the greatest at modest super upgrading costs.Kind regards,

I agree with you cause we don't know much yet and it may well be just a GHz boost, still if the Ivy Bridge can overclock higher compare to the Sandy Bridge on air 5.4GHz > who ever is on the 775 socket may be tempted to get on board.......

It would be awesome if Ivy Bridge increased the maximum overclock potential significantly over Sandy Bridge, certainly. I just don't expect it to happen. As you say though, would be a mighty tempting upgrade for 775 users such as myself!

I completely agree with everything Tech said. Unless Intel comes up with some unexpected architectural improvements in IB or LGA2011, IB should at best overclock a tad higher, and LGA2011 will be the same marketing gimmick that those who think an enthusiast platform performs better per-se will buy. Haven't we learned anything from SB? it sweeps the former enthusiast 1366 socket and it's not only an FSX thing.

I completely agree with everything Tech said. Unless Intel comes up with some unexpected architectural improvements in IB or LGA2011, IB should at best overclock a tad higher, and LGA2011 will be the same marketing gimmick that those who think an enthusiast platform performs better per-se will buy. Haven't we learned anything from SB? it sweeps the former enthusiast 1366 socket and it's not only an FSX thing.

Exactly.

The Fudzilla article is up to the minute while the other one is dated. Indications are that Ivy Bridge will be faster than the 2011 socket SB CPUs and will fit on the 1150 P67-B3 motherboards with a new bios flash. It will be back to the future once again. One thing for certain, the present SB is indeed far ahead of anything Intel had before, particularily for the FSX performance enthusiast. Only those who have talked themselves out of the 1155 will say any different. Those who have flown with a 5.0 OC'ed i7 2500K or i7 2600K know what that really means.So, it seems that the smart thing to do is to buy the best of what now is, the 1150 socket SB, and then decide later if Ivy Bridge is worth trading up CPUs for. If so, just swap out CPUs and an hour or so later you will be enjoying the latest and the greatest at modest super upgrading costs.Kind regards,

I'm not sure what you mean by your remarks, Stephen. You seem to be inferring that I (or other posters) have made a recommendation against Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge - this is untrue. I'd love to have a 5GHz Sandy Bridge system just for FSX. Or a 5GHz+ Ivy Bridge system, for that matter.

Here is the relevant portion of that second article:All the information I've seen about Ivy Bridge indicates that there are approximately zero architectural tweaks that would contribute to average-case IPC. If one of these news sites has contrary information and cares to divulge it then I'd consider it. You'll notice also in that quote that clockspeed gains are mentioned specifically as a method for boosting performance, as I had mentioned.

I'm pretty sure, if nothing else that will come to better overclocking headroom. Even if the chips are only binned better (which they will be since Intel sees it fit to raise Turbo speed) that will obviously spell higher overclocks on average. Of course I know you're aware of this. I'll just be waiting for the whole line up so I can go in excess of 5GHz.

I'm not sure what you mean by your remarks, Stephen. You seem to be inferring that I (or other posters) have made a recommendation against Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge - this is untrue. I'd love to have a 5GHz Sandy Bridge system just for FSX. Or a 5GHz+ Ivy Bridge system, for that matter.

Woops, perhaps I am not writing specific enough, since it seems too easy to misunderstand me. I was only referring to those like Slick Nick who infer that Sandy Bridge 1150 socket systems is not worth buying now by advising others to wait for something better. Didn't even think of you in that regard Max! Sorry about that.Insofar as whether Ivy Bridge will be worth an upgrade from the present SB, only time will tell. My point was that since Intel has said in the latest articles that the 1150 platform will support both the present SB and Ivy Bridge CPUs, the cost and inconvenience of upgrading, if worthwhile, may be minimal.Consequently, it seems prudent to me to buy now with the expectation that I may be able to have my cake and eat it too when Ivy Bridge comes along. I don't think that the additional CPU cores or RAM channel(s) with the 2011 socket set will help FSX, any more that the hexicore i7 9XX with triple channel memory has performed over and above a good existing Sandy Bridge.Anyway, maybe I am just justifying what I have already spent my money on, the same way others justify saving their money and waiting. Both are right, or wrong, depending on which decision has already been made. Right? :Peace: Peace and all that! Kind regards,