April 18, 201115 yr Your opinion... SSD is a premium toy it what it boils down to Not my opinion. There are benchmarks a plenty to support it. Have you personally tried an SSD yourself? I think not, or I'd bet my next paycheck you'd be singing a different tune. It's not just boot time, it's EVERYTHING that happens faster. Need I say more? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Jz7IMwBt4 Nick Holinski CYYC Water Cooled (Koolance/Bitspower) eVGA 790i Ultra SLI E8500 4.5GHz (2000MHz FSB) eVGA GTX 460EE Superclocked (X2) 4GB 2000MHz DDR3 Corsair Force60 SSD (OS) Seagate Barracuda 2X 500GB (Raid 0) 1000W Antec Truepower 24" and Dual 19" LCD's Windows 7 / FSX / FS9
April 18, 201115 yr Not my opinion. There are benchmarks a plenty to support it. Have you personally tried an SSD yourself? I think not, or I'd bet my next paycheck you'd be singing a different tune. It's not just boot time, it's EVERYTHING that happens faster. Need I say more? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Jz7IMwBt4 Alright, want my account details to send your next paycheck? :Big Grin: Seriously - tried it, and was by all means not impressed by an SSD. Yes, as I said: it is faster. But it's not worth the money - yet.Is a Corvette worth the money? For someone who has that much to spend and not miss - sure. For someone who wants A->B, surely not.Most simmers want to fly. Not measure how long the boot/load takes.EDIT: And I am talking FSX partition, NOT windows!EDIT2: And that video just rocks!
April 18, 201115 yr Alright, want my account details to send your next paycheck? :Big Grin: Seriously - tried it, and was by all means not impressed by an SSD. Yes, as I said: it is faster. But it's not worth the money - yet.Is a Corvette worth the money? For someone who has that much to spend and not miss - sure. For someone who wants A->B, surely not.Most simmers want to fly. Not measure how long the boot/load takes.I'm sure Nick meant to ask have I tried RAID0... lol because I use an SSD dedicated for FSX (do people check siggy's).About the flying... the faster it loads the faster I'll be flying :)If you went from a system like my old one, AMD6000, and load time was around 3-5 minutes, to my new system, you too would want to go a little crazy getting a fast drive :PThe video seems a bit off... I've never tried loading 51 programs but I can load a lot of programs much faster than that person's rig with my 1TB 7200rpm.What he should do is get a high OC on his CPU, then run all those programs again. CPU speed/amount of cores has a lot to do with loading software too.Anyway I think you took my comment the wrong way - I wrote that SSD's are premium toys, which I why I bought one lol. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
April 18, 201115 yr I just think that they are way overrated, that's all. Especially coming from 10k drive...
April 18, 201115 yr I just think that they are way overrated, that's all. Especially coming from 10k drive...Your response is contradicting your response to that "awesome video" lolThe video was showing the SSD destroy the mechanical drive... or was I watching a different video ROFL? | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
April 18, 201115 yr Your response is contradicting your response to that "awesome video" lolThe video was showing the SSD destroy the mechanical drive... or was I watching a different video ROFL?Maybe he just watched it for the awesome soundtrack? ;) Nick Holinski CYYC Water Cooled (Koolance/Bitspower) eVGA 790i Ultra SLI E8500 4.5GHz (2000MHz FSB) eVGA GTX 460EE Superclocked (X2) 4GB 2000MHz DDR3 Corsair Force60 SSD (OS) Seagate Barracuda 2X 500GB (Raid 0) 1000W Antec Truepower 24" and Dual 19" LCD's Windows 7 / FSX / FS9
April 19, 201115 yr Maybe he just watched it for the awesome soundtrack? ;)LOL!So let me throw this out there:If I only put my OS on the SSD (at some point in the future), do I put all my other apps/software and FSX on the RAID0 drive?I guess what I'm wonderin' is how that video uploader opened 51 apps on the same SSD? OR were they installed on the raptor? | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
April 19, 201115 yr NickN doesn't recommend running RAID's on onboard controllers since it uses valuable CPU cycles. At least that's what I think was the reason. Never tried it myself though, so I can't comment on personal experience. If that's true, a good controller card for a proper RAID is not cheap (300-400$).Anyway, no HDD RAID will ever get even close to SSD performance because it's seek time what makes them special and it's seek time for the most part what makes the SSD so fast at that video. Question is, who opens 51 applications at the same time? Personally I'll wait till prices drop a bit more before I get me an SSD. I can live with a 1 minute load time in FSX for a 2 hour flight
April 19, 201115 yr Dazz, no one opens 51 apps at the same time, but it was done to showcase how an SSD is leaps and bounds faster than a conventional drive. Onboard RAID controllers work great, an add-on card is not required at all. Nick Holinski CYYC Water Cooled (Koolance/Bitspower) eVGA 790i Ultra SLI E8500 4.5GHz (2000MHz FSB) eVGA GTX 460EE Superclocked (X2) 4GB 2000MHz DDR3 Corsair Force60 SSD (OS) Seagate Barracuda 2X 500GB (Raid 0) 1000W Antec Truepower 24" and Dual 19" LCD's Windows 7 / FSX / FS9
April 19, 201115 yr Your response is contradicting your response to that "awesome video" lolThe video was showing the SSD destroy the mechanical drive... or was I watching a different video ROFL?Yeah, I was all in just for the music! :Big Grin: I think noone is reading my posts correctly <_< As I said: SSD -> Windows, GREAT. SSD -> FSX, if you have 7200, alright, but 10k drive, I see no reason for the price!And now stop misunderstanding me! :Cry: :Peace:
April 19, 201115 yr That's funny! :Applause:It is actually haha!The music stunk HAHAHA! | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
April 23, 201115 yr Hey guys,Hope I'm posting in the right section.Next week I'm gonna order one of the two.- Cooler Master Elite 430 - 650W PFC- Asus P8H67-M (H67/R3.0)- i5 2500 3.3 GHz 6Mb- 8Gb DDR3 1333 CL9- GTX460 1GB 1024Mb GDDR5or- Centurion 5 II - 650W- Asus SABERTOOTH Intel X58 LGA1366 / USB 3.0- i7 950 3.06GHz 8Mb LGA1366- 6Gb DDR3 1333 CL9- GTX460 1GB 1024Mb GDDR5Second one is about 120€ more expensive.Please tell me if there is a big difference between them and which performance I can expect from FSX.Thanks a lot for your help.Cheers!
April 23, 201115 yr Welcome to Avsim ^_^The first option with the I5 2500, the cheapest, is also faster. You will get very good performance with that system, only significant way to improve performance then would be overclocking the CPU, but you can't with that board and CPU. Have you considered overclocking?I you don't want to, the - Cooler Master Elite 430 - 650W PFC- Asus P8H67-M (H67/R3.0)- i5 2500 3.3 GHz 6Mb- 8Gb DDR3 1333 CL9- GTX460 1GB 1024Mb GDDR5option is great, otherwise you'l need a I5 2500K and a P67 board
April 23, 201115 yr Thank you for the fast reply and your "welcome" as well.Actually I'm a bit short on budget, that's why I wasn't planning about overclocking.The cheaper option is about 690€ without o.s. As for the o.s. I was thinking about the "cheaper" 7 Home Premium 64bit, I guess should be ok.At the moment my system is Q6600 2.4GHz (mob is "locked" and couldn't upgrade bios), 2.7GB DDR2 and GT220 2GB.FS9 is performing ok, but FSX really struggles. That's why I desided for the big step.I hope I'll be able to move bars in FSX a little bit to the right still having around 20FPS at least.The real frame killer, in my opinion, are clouds with FSX (they were also with FS9).What could I expect in terms of FPS in a cloduy/rainy day?
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